View Poll Results: Crawl / MTS - model year/trim upgrade survey
2010 - Base - Added Crawl
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2011 - Base - Added Crawl
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2011 - Premium (stock Crawl) - Added MTS
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2012 - Base - Added Crawl
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2012 - Premium (stock Crawl) - Added MTS
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2014 Base - Added Crawl
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2015 Base - Added Crawl
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2015 Premium - Added Crawl
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2016 Base - Added Crawl
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2016 Premium - Added Crawl
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2017 Base - Added Crawl
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2017 Premium - Added Crawl
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2017 Luxury - Added Crawl/MTS
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2018 Base - Added Crawl
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2018 Luxury - Added Crawl
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2019 Base - Added Crawl
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2019 Premium - Added Crawl
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2019 Luxury - Added Crawl
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2019 Luxury - Added Crawl/MTS
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Racer
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 1,985
Likes: 1,045
From: Northeast Ohio
When I was looking to purchase a GX I wanted specifically a 2013 so I could add steel bumpers and a winch, etc. to convert into an overlander. I looked ALL over for a Premium that had front radar, front and side cameras, multi-terrain and crawl-control.
Let me qualify that I live in So. Cal. so that may be a limitation in itself.
The best I could find was a 2013 with Premium with 38,000 miles on the clock. Purchased this mid 2018.
The Premium I purchased did have Parking Assist and DAC, headlight washer, 3 climate zones, etc. but not some of the features I was really looking for such as:
Let me qualify that I live in So. Cal. so that may be a limitation in itself.
The best I could find was a 2013 with Premium with 38,000 miles on the clock. Purchased this mid 2018.
The Premium I purchased did have Parking Assist and DAC, headlight washer, 3 climate zones, etc. but not some of the features I was really looking for such as:
- Multi-terrain
- Crawl Control
- Front radar
- Front and right side cameras
Pit Crew
Joined: Nov 2018
Posts: 171
Likes: 38
From: CA
Thanks and I agree with you, It is probably a "nice-to-have" on snow and ice but not necessarily a "must-have"
I have been driving in the harshest of winters for 20+ years, so quite familiar with the process. 11 yrs of those I was driving my 80 series Land Cruiser. A real BEAST in snow and ice.
But, that said, I found that the most important item to have is a good set of winter tires (NOT all season, or all weather). Makes a difference of night and day in accelerating, braking and cornering.
But, because of the ease of installation, and somewhat reasonable price, I may just install the MTS module, which MAY come in handy one day.
I have been driving in the harshest of winters for 20+ years, so quite familiar with the process. 11 yrs of those I was driving my 80 series Land Cruiser. A real BEAST in snow and ice.
But, that said, I found that the most important item to have is a good set of winter tires (NOT all season, or all weather). Makes a difference of night and day in accelerating, braking and cornering.
But, because of the ease of installation, and somewhat reasonable price, I may just install the MTS module, which MAY come in handy one day.
I'm still looking through what all is involved in adding both those controls.
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9,318
Likes: 3,978
From: USA
MTS is easy plug and play once you take enough of the dash out. Crawl is fairly simple on the hardware swap but you do need to use a laptop with Techstream to do the zero point.
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CL Community Team
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9,318
Likes: 3,978
From: USA
I'll have to defer that OEM experiment to someone else. :-)
Last edited by Acrad; Feb 1, 2019 at 01:59 PM.
Racer
Joined: Aug 2018
Posts: 1,599
Likes: 455
From: il
I plan to add MTS when/if the new display gets good enough to order. Camera lines can be added with a different camera, but they won't be active (move), and wont be calibrated to the size of the GX. My opinion is that the static non-calibrated lines aren't worth the trouble, but maybe that's cause I am excellent at parking 
Driver School Candidate
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 12
Likes: 2
From: IL
Is this oemvehicleparts.com on the up and up?
I ordered the needed parts from the links and got the parts in a used chocolate box. Is there a way to tell if the parts are real OEM parts. Has anyone else had issues with them?
Thanks for your time.
I ordered the needed parts from the links and got the parts in a used chocolate box. Is there a way to tell if the parts are real OEM parts. Has anyone else had issues with them?
Thanks for your time.
Rookie
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 73
Likes: 12
From: CO
CRAWL vs. MTS...do we even need MTS??
I am super happy that our GX has CRAWL as an option. And in some other Toyotas, there is also MTS (multi-terrain select).
Some folks here have done mods to get MTS on GX. One of the nice thing about MTS mod is that you can use Mud/sand in 4HI. But i am not sure if just locking center diff will be just as good as MTS Mud/Sand mode in 4HI.
Anyway, here is Toyota’s explaining on when to use CRAWL (see attached). I am not sure if MTS is much needed given that CRAWL at different speeds do basically the same thing. Therefore, our GX is plenty good for all terrain with just center diff locking capability and CRAWL.
Last edited by Madtiger; Feb 14, 2019 at 07:58 AM.
Thread Starter
CL Community Team
Joined: Mar 2017
Posts: 9,318
Likes: 3,978
From: USA
Actually Crawl doesn't change the ATRAC slip ratio. MTS will do that.
Here is a video from the MTS/Crawl Thread
Personally I like a swiss army knife of options even if I rarely use some of them.
Canadian GXs can get MTS from the factory.. in addition they also have option for the driver side camera.
Here is a video from the MTS/Crawl Thread
Personally I like a swiss army knife of options even if I rarely use some of them.
Canadian GXs can get MTS from the factory.. in addition they also have option for the driver side camera.
Rookie
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 95
Likes: 41
From: CA
I like the MTS and Crawl. The MTS has been most helpful for me when driving up rocky or mogul hills. It reduces wheel spin if you lift a tire over the factory atrac settings. I haven't used it in the sand or mud settings much so I can't comment on those settings.
EDIT: one thing I've noticed is that crawl is not useful in the low setting for me. Maybe it's because I have larger tires on. The car seems to just constantly hit the brakes every second or so when in the low speed setting, it's not smooth at all. The setting between low and med through high seem to work great though. Very smooth and controlled speeds.
EDIT: one thing I've noticed is that crawl is not useful in the low setting for me. Maybe it's because I have larger tires on. The car seems to just constantly hit the brakes every second or so when in the low speed setting, it's not smooth at all. The setting between low and med through high seem to work great though. Very smooth and controlled speeds.
Last edited by KJ6IRM; Feb 14, 2019 at 08:33 AM.
Rookie
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 73
Likes: 12
From: CO
In those rocks / hills, why not use CRAWL instead because it simulates locker the best (better than ATRAC)?
Rookie
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 95
Likes: 41
From: CA