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I have got to be honest the pics coming out of Europe are awesome, compared to state side!!!! 
So the 3rd Test mule in Europe seems to be another Hybrid.!!!!!

The "Blue Power" button for engine start indicates Hybrid model...
If we can get MORE interior pics of the GS 250, we should be set...
So far all I have found is this one.. You can see the leather boot used for the shifter gate..
While the Hybrids do not use the leather on the shifter gate. Just **** & metal shaft.

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So the 3rd Test mule in Europe seems to be another Hybrid.!!!!!


The "Blue Power" button for engine start indicates Hybrid model...
If we can get MORE interior pics of the GS 250, we should be set...
So far all I have found is this one.. You can see the leather boot used for the shifter gate..
While the Hybrids do not use the leather on the shifter gate. Just **** & metal shaft.

Joe Z
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Europe seems to be showing 3 working Test Mules of the prototype 2013 GS's.
1st - is indeed a GS450 h, with some different interior details and 3 projector hybrid headlights for sure
Running on 19" wheels & tires and different grills.
It also seems to share the "Glowing Red Gauge Light" when Sport Drive Mode is selected.
Might as well include that it has the same dark blue "Power Button" for the engine start/stop.
Just like the current CT200 h
2013 GS 450h Prototype in Europe with F-Sport trim


2011 CT 200 h - Gauges & Power Button (RHD shown below)


2nd - could be another GS450 h with again different interior details and different wheels. (base pkg)
3rd - could be another GS250 or maybe GS Diesel.
There is only one pic showing 3 covered test mules.. Only two are visible with different wheels.
USA - is only showing two working test mules at the moment.
1st - is a Basic GS350
2nd - is a GS350 with what will be a factory built / upgraded F-Sport package*
(*Which is NOT the same or even related to the USA F-Sport accessory parts program for the current IS & GS Models, distributed by TRD)
~ Joe Z
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Yes, as stated earlier.. Europe seems to be showing 3 working Test Mules of the prototype 2013 GS's.
1st - is indeed a GS450 h, with some different interior details and 3 projector hybrid headlights for sure
Running on 19" wheels & tires and different grills.
It also seems to share the "Glowing Red Gauge Light" when Sport Drive Mode is selected.
Might as well include that it has the same dark blue "Power Button" for the engine start/stop.
Just like the current CT200 h

2013 GS 450h Prototype in Europe with F-Sport trim


2011 CT 200 h - Gauges & Power Button (RHD shown below)


2nd - could be another GS450 h with again different interior details and different wheels. (base pkg)
3rd - could be another GS250 or maybe GS Diesel.
There is only one pic showing 3 covered test mules.. Only two are visible with different wheels.
USA - is only showing two working test mules at the moment.
1st - is a Basic GS350
2nd - is a GS350 with what will be a factory built / upgraded F-Sport package*
(*Which is NOT the same or even related to the USA F-Sport accessory parts program for the current IS & GS Models, distributed by TRD)
~ Joe Z
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Finally!!!
All 3 Test Mules with all 3 plates showing…!!
My belief is the two facing forward in the below pic, are the Hybrid Models w/Camel Interior..
One looks like a Base Hybrid and the other looks like an F-Sport upgraded Hybrid.
The one facing the red “DO NOT ENTER” sign could be a GS250 or GS diesel

GS Hybrids


Basic GS 250


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All 3 Test Mules with all 3 plates showing…!!
My belief is the two facing forward in the below pic, are the Hybrid Models w/Camel Interior..
One looks like a Base Hybrid and the other looks like an F-Sport upgraded Hybrid.
The one facing the red “DO NOT ENTER” sign could be a GS250 or GS diesel

GS Hybrids


Basic GS 250


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seeing all the improvement i wonder if i should sell my 3gs now while pricing is still good, haha
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I'm thinking that the diagram in those buttons I mentioned shows a picture or caricature of a seat and some curvy lines flowing through it (which I think indicates air/ventilation). Plus, you can three light indicators above those aforementioned buttons.
So yeah, I think this car will have seat ventilation for rear passengers
CH FLD is audio control.Originally Posted by Blackraven
I think those buttons (the ones above the "CH FLD" and the "TEMP" adjust buttons respectively) are seat ventilation buttons......I think.
I'm thinking that the diagram in those buttons I mentioned shows a picture or caricature of a seat and some curvy lines flowing through it (which I think indicates air/ventilation). Plus, you can three light indicators above those aforementioned buttons.
So yeah, I think this car will have seat ventilation for rear passengers
TEMP is a temperature control for 3rd zone (rear).
Seat with lines indicates seat heating. Seat with a fan in upper left corner indicates that seat is ventilated.
Those 3 LED indicators are 3 stage heating.
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damn, that middle control is "ultra luxury"
once it's out, you know 3gs price will drop
or do you want to make sure the trunk is an improvement and more usable?
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you shouldOriginally Posted by rominl
seeing all the improvement i wonder if i should sell my 3gs now while pricing is still good, haha
once it's out, you know 3gs price will drop
or do you want to make sure the trunk is an improvement and more usable?

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I was just thinking that Originally Posted by rominl
seeing all the improvement i wonder if i should sell my 3gs now while pricing is still good, haha

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USA Test Mules observations...
One of the the Base GS350's is showing off the same paded headrest as the Euro Spec one

Here is the US Head lights for now.....

Hopefully they don't do what they did with the CT200h - Different headlights for different markets!!!
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One of the the Base GS350's is showing off the same paded headrest as the Euro Spec one

Here is the US Head lights for now.....


Hopefully they don't do what they did with the CT200h - Different headlights for different markets!!!
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Lexus added the blue power button to the GSh I think in 09 or 10.....
Have to say they really seem to have done the HW this time..
Have to say they really seem to have done the HW this time..
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agreed on the explanation of buttons, make sense
here is the ls460 rear console for those not familiar. i have to say the display is pretty damn nice (if it's the same)


here is the ls460 rear console for those not familiar. i have to say the display is pretty damn nice (if it's the same)


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once it's out, you know 3gs price will drop
or do you want to make sure the trunk is an improvement and more usable?
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damn, that middle control is "ultra luxury"you should
once it's out, you know 3gs price will drop
or do you want to make sure the trunk is an improvement and more usable?
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lol alright you guys hold your position, let me sell mine first Originally Posted by SNiiP3R
I was just thinking that

trunk isn't in the equation yet. even if i sell the gs350, i didn't say i am getting 4gs

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Also not how different the seat adjustments are compared to past Lexus


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Have to say they really seem to have done the HW this time..
agreed. at least a lot of stuff people pointed out over the years on the 3gs, they have an answer in the 4gs. not saying they are fixed, but at least they did something about it. that's very good.Originally Posted by Mike@Vossen
Lexus added the blue power button to the GSh I think in 09 or 10.....Have to say they really seem to have done the HW this time..
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i was actually trying to decode those buttons and see what they are forOriginally Posted by Mike@Vossen
Also not how different the seat adjustments are compared to past Lexus
the obvious bottom and back buttons are the same. then there is a button to extend the seat bottom just like the ls460. one for the lumber support. one for the bolsters. the other 2 i can't make out of them










