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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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Default Advice needed regarding engine start noise...

I have the start-up clattering intermittently - my car has 77k miles (2007). I would like input from those that have this issue - it's covered in a number of threads:

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...ine-start.html

After going back and forth with Lexus corporate, my local dealer has decided to cover the parts for this TSIB repair but not the labor. They will charge me $650.00 for the labor. They claim the parts are ~ $900 in which I checked with Sewell and that is about right.

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Should I have them do it?
Does it need to be done?
I am worried it will come back and then they won't cover it again. Then what?
Should I put it off and try adding 1/2 quart of Lucas synthetic oil stabilizer next oil change which has helped for some?

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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:02 AM
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Its not going to go away.

The oil stabilizer is a band aid... use it if you don't have the $ right now and save up.

Otherwise, get it fixed. Its cheaper to go that route than to have an independent shop do it anyways.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:13 AM
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From my understanding it's more of an aesthetic problem than something that would ever do any real damage to the car so it's up to you to decide how much it sounding normal is worth to you. Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:20 AM
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Just get it fixed at dealership they usually have a 90 day warranty for an repair they do their. It's not worth in the long run to get it fixed else were
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:44 AM
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Do not.... I mean DO NOT put Lucas oil stabilizer on your vehicle... It does more damage than good.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 10:42 AM
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From my understanding it's more of an aesthetic problem than something that would ever do any real damage to the car so it's up to you to decide how much it sounding normal is worth to you. Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody.
Camshaft gears leak down oil. Think about it this way, the timing chain assembly will not be operating to its designed intent and the 'rattle' is metal on metal.

The failure rate of engines that make the noise has got to be higher than those that do not.

SO... how long? You can wait and see... and if it fails, you'll be out a lot more $ than the cost of labor; additional component replacement cost, vehicle depreciation, etc.

Over half is warrantied and you're out of warranty? Sounds like a win for you, my good sir.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Simmsled
Camshaft gears leak down oil. Think about it this way, the timing chain assembly will not be operating to its designed intent and the 'rattle' is metal on metal.

The failure rate of engines that make the noise has got to be higher than those that do not.

SO... how long? You can wait and see... and if it fails, you'll be out a lot more $ than the cost of labor; additional component replacement cost, vehicle depreciation, etc.

Over half is warrantied and you're out of warranty? Sounds like a win for you, my good sir.
I've never heard it, seems like more of an issue with the 2GR-FSE than the 3GR-FSE, but from my reading about it on here it always seems like it's only for about a second... a settle of light rattling once in a while on startup is going to take forever to do any real damage to anything I'd think.

What I wonder is why those engines are fine for a long time and then spontaneously develop the problem.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 07:35 PM
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Thanks for the input...I'll probably get it done within the next month.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Dont you have powertrain warranty?
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GS350Lexus
Dont you have powertrain warranty?
Powertrain warranty is up at 70k miles
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 08:06 AM
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If you did the TSB for the work earlier, you get 100k warranty
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by burny
If you did the TSB for the work earlier, you get 100k warranty
I understand but this work has never been done on my car.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 04:59 AM
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My car was making this noise yesterday at start up, I have CPO so I assume it would be covered. Anyone have any advice how to get the repair done? I know the dealership always wants to duplicate the issue or they don't fix it. Any advice is appreciated.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Make a video of it happening to you, show it to them... make sure you show your odometer and vin in the video so it proves its your car. Can't see how they can argue with that.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BinaryJay
Make a video of it happening to you, show it to them... make sure you show your odometer and vin in the video so it proves its your car. Can't see how they can argue with that.
I did this exactly and they still had to hear it in person - bunch of jackasses
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