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11-17-10, 08:57 AM
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Hi guys,
Some lexus dealer try to sell the paint and leather protection called magna shield. What do you think about this? Is it worth the money?
Some lexus dealer try to sell the paint and leather protection called magna shield. What do you think about this? Is it worth the money?
11-17-10, 09:07 AM
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Its probably that crap every bimmer dealer adds on around here. Some miracle cream that doesn't age your leather supposedly. Its like some polymer lacquer crap they apply on leather that protects is from uv. Personally i think leather wear is inevitable and doing a leather conditioning every now and again should extend its useful life.
11-17-10, 09:10 AM
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Also the paint version is a scam!
"Lifetime Paint Protection:
There is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market product available that can provide a (2 or 5 year) lifetime protection to a paint film surface. Read the fine print in the contract offered by car dealerships, there is normally a clause that states you should return the vehicle for a "maintenance" application of the product (at 3 or 6 months intervals) failing to do this will void your warranty or the fine print will basically exclude every condition you could claim against
The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene paint that has a thickness of 2-3 Mils (0.002-0.003") this is protected by a sacrificial barrier of wax or synthetic polymer sealant.
This barrier is all that stands between the environmental contaminants (ultra violet radiation, acid rain, ozone, industrial pollution, rain, road dirt and tar, etc) and the paint film surface. This renewable barrier is less than 0.000001" thick.
While it’s true that a polymer paints melting point is 350+oF, it is still subject to evaporation and erosion by the elements and vehicle washing. However its durability is approximately five or six months.
The technology for a lifetime protection for a vehicles paint film surface does not currently exist.
Most dealerships rely on the fact that few customers read the fine print on the contract; the PermaPlate box says is must be reapplied every 6 months and every 3 months on darker coloured cars (for which a service charge will apply).
While it will not provide ‘lifetime’ protection go to a Chrysler or Dodge dealer and get them to apply the Daimler-Chrysler Master Shield sealant, this product provides both real protection and a real warranty for any make of vehicle."
"Lifetime Paint Protection:
There is no polymer, synthetic or natural wax, or after-market product available that can provide a (2 or 5 year) lifetime protection to a paint film surface. Read the fine print in the contract offered by car dealerships, there is normally a clause that states you should return the vehicle for a "maintenance" application of the product (at 3 or 6 months intervals) failing to do this will void your warranty or the fine print will basically exclude every condition you could claim against
The primary protection provided for a modern water-based colour coat is a polythene paint that has a thickness of 2-3 Mils (0.002-0.003") this is protected by a sacrificial barrier of wax or synthetic polymer sealant.
This barrier is all that stands between the environmental contaminants (ultra violet radiation, acid rain, ozone, industrial pollution, rain, road dirt and tar, etc) and the paint film surface. This renewable barrier is less than 0.000001" thick.
While it’s true that a polymer paints melting point is 350+oF, it is still subject to evaporation and erosion by the elements and vehicle washing. However its durability is approximately five or six months.
The technology for a lifetime protection for a vehicles paint film surface does not currently exist.
Most dealerships rely on the fact that few customers read the fine print on the contract; the PermaPlate box says is must be reapplied every 6 months and every 3 months on darker coloured cars (for which a service charge will apply).
While it will not provide ‘lifetime’ protection go to a Chrysler or Dodge dealer and get them to apply the Daimler-Chrysler Master Shield sealant, this product provides both real protection and a real warranty for any make of vehicle."
11-17-10, 01:19 PM
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11-17-10, 01:40 PM
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Hell no its not worth that money!! Even if you get your car waxed and detailed every month at the detail shop for the next 8 years it doesn't cost that much!
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11-17-10, 01:42 PM
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big 2nd. Ever watch that movie Fargo where that car salesman was trying to sell that car paint protection for like $400 even though it doesn't do anything? lol
11-17-10, 01:53 PM
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yeah, you're giving back everything you negotiated off of the sticker price when you buy those "add-ons". pure profit for the dealer.
11-17-10, 03:59 PM
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rule of thumb....... don't buy crap from the dealer.
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
the only exception is if you want an extended warranty and they're selling a mfgr's official extended warranty for cheap.
gotta watch out because my local dealer is selling their own extended warranty, by Penske.
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
the only exception is if you want an extended warranty and they're selling a mfgr's official extended warranty for cheap.
gotta watch out because my local dealer is selling their own extended warranty, by Penske.
Last edited by dunnojack; 11-17-10 at 04:03 PM.
11-17-10, 04:24 PM
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rule of thumb....... don't buy crap from the dealer.
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
the only exception is if you want an extended warranty and they're selling a mfgr's official extended warranty for cheap.
gotta watch out because my local dealer is selling their own extended warranty, by Penske.
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
the only exception is if you want an extended warranty and they're selling a mfgr's official extended warranty for cheap.
gotta watch out because my local dealer is selling their own extended warranty, by Penske.
11-18-10, 05:20 PM
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rule of thumb....... don't buy crap from the dealer.
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
when i bought my car, the sales dept dude went through the usual long list of extra stealer crap.
I interrupted him before he could get to the second item. I told him "lemme save you some time. Just put a big X through the whole page"
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