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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 07:39 AM
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Hello ClubLexus Folks,

New member here with a question. I have a 1998 GS400 with 167K miles and just changed my tranny fluid with Type IV. Well, after changing it, I started experiencing intermittent problems with the tranny going into 1st and Reverse gear. If I rev up the engine to about 1.2K rpms, it will go into 1st and reverse when the engine is cold. It appears to act better when the tranny heats up after driving it a little. I can work on cars but am not a mechanic and definitely could not rebuild a tranny or engine so my ability is limited.

I would appreciate any input from the experts here. Hopefully, it something I can drop the pan and fix.....

Thanks in advance
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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Did you do a drain and fill or tranny flush?
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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I did a drain and fill. About 1 week after the drain and fill, the symptoms started. So I did another drain and fill again this past Saturday and the symptoms didnt change. What is wierd is it shifts good 2nd thru 5th. But when coming to a stop....it will slip out of 1st into neutral until I rev the engine a bit and then it will "hard" shift into 1st.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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hmmm, did u drain and refill with the 2.5. quarts? what color was the fluid prior to the procedure? Smell the dip stick for any burn smell.
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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hmmm, did u drain and refill with the 2.5. quarts? what color was the fluid prior to the procedure? Smell the dip stick for any burn smell.
Definitely address this, also see if you can have any codes pulled from your tranny's computer.. Was it toyota brand type IV fluid also? I don't think its a fluid related issue may be a shift solenoid on its way out..
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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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I actually refilled with 1.75 quarts. When I was refilling, it became more difficult (the fluid in the funnel seemed to slow way down and would not injest into the tranny). So, I stopped and checked the dipstick which showed full at the "hot" level WITHOUT the engine running. I thought I put in too much ( I usually measure what I take out but didnt this time). I ran it for 2 weeks like that without a problem until the last few days of the 2 week period. Do you think it may be a fluid issue?
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Default Fluid didnt smell burnt...just smelled sweet...

hope that helps
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Interesting, does the light on the dash go to neutral or does the light stay on D and switch to neutral then.
Cause when I flushed my tranny, I replaced the safety neutral switch solenoid because it was leaking, after I closed it back up and got into the car the whole assembly shifted and instead of being in drive the car was in neutral therefore I had to re adjust it back to normal.
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Originally Posted by HockeyLex
I actually refilled with 1.75 quarts. When I was refilling, it became more difficult (the fluid in the funnel seemed to slow way down and would not injest into the tranny). So, I stopped and checked the dipstick which showed full at the "hot" level WITHOUT the engine running. I thought I put in too much ( I usually measure what I take out but didnt this time). I ran it for 2 weeks like that without a problem until the last few days of the 2 week period. Do you think it may be a fluid issue?
After doing a drain and refill you want to put in at least 2 quarts and that on ground level, also after pouring in the new fluid there will be fluid on the inner wall of the thingy that that the dipstick goes in resulting in a inaccurate reading. drive around the block after the refill and that would give you an accurate reading, of course while the engine is running at normal operating temps
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Just did another drain and refill and put in a little over 2 quarts this time.
At first start, the symptoms remained with the car going in and out of reverse and 1st gear while sitting in the garage. The drive lights did not change at all (i.e. if I put the shifter in reverse and then it shifted out of reverse back into neutral, the shift light stayed on "R".)

However, after taking it for a 10 minute drive, the symptoms disappeared and the car appears normal now. I will check again later today. Is this tranny that susceptible to fluid levels where a 1/4 to 1/2 a quart matters?
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Everything mentioned above is on point. If you only did a drain/refill this didn't do anything to the tranny. The only direction that this points to is that the fluid level isn't correct. These cars are VERY VERY tempermental if the fluid is a little high or a little low. It must be within (at the MOST) 1/4 quart over or below...preferably below. Above you start blowing seals and get erratic shifting and below you get erratic shifting as well and excess slippage. It sounds to me like it is simply the level.

Rule of thumb: whatever you drain the old fluid into, measure it and put that exact amount of new fluid back in the tranny. GL!
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Originally Posted by HockeyLex
Just did another drain and refill and put in a little over 2 quarts this time.
At first start, the symptoms remained with the car going in and out of reverse and 1st gear while sitting in the garage. The drive lights did not change at all (i.e. if I put the shifter in reverse and then it shifted out of reverse back into neutral, the shift light stayed on "R".)

However, after taking it for a 10 minute drive, the symptoms disappeared and the car appears normal now. I will check again later today. Is this tranny that susceptible to fluid levels where a 1/4 to 1/2 a quart matters?
It is pretty sensitive to the level. I did a drain and fill a few months ago, with only 2 quarts. I had the same symptoms as you, it would slip into neutral while cold, or hesitate going into 1st from a dead stop. Once the car was warmed up, it was good though.

Next oil change, I did another drain/fill on the tranny and used 2.5 qts instead. Problem hasn't resurfaced since
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