Spacers
if u add spacers, u need longer studs to be pressed in. an alternative is wheel adapters such as "project kics"
as for how thick, a 20x10 +43 sits just good enough without rubbing and without fender rolling.
just did some quick calculations, you should be able to run a 25mm spacer. that will make it sit close to flush. hope someone can follow up with my calculations to make sure they are right. =)
as for how thick, a 20x10 +43 sits just good enough without rubbing and without fender rolling.
just did some quick calculations, you should be able to run a 25mm spacer. that will make it sit close to flush. hope someone can follow up with my calculations to make sure they are right. =)
I heard five. Etherway, most spacers come with longer studs. Only the cheap pep boys, etc... are the ones that don't come with anything.
ive never seen h&r spacers come with longer studs, though i could be wrong. you would still need them pressed in. i wouldnt trust any other brands cept for project kics for quality wise.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
ive never seen h&r spacers come with longer studs, though i could be wrong. you would still need them pressed in. i wouldnt trust any other brands cept for project kics for quality wise.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
Many members have H&R and others brands that come with longer studs. Speaking from someone that currently has some, H&R and ICHIBA spacers. They work just fine and they are a good quality product.
Last edited by GS FONZy; Apr 14, 2008 at 07:47 PM.
re read, i said the hr spacers ive mainly delt with were for euros. euros use stud bolts and not lug nuts, thus its much easier for them to run spacers as its just a matter of using a longer stud bolt. i am not aware that H&R spacers for japanese/domestic vehicles come with longer studs which would need to be pressed in.
i did not denounce H&R spacer quality, however i am more concerned with running a spacer and not long enough stud for the lug nut to thread onto.
i did not denounce H&R spacer quality, however i am more concerned with running a spacer and not long enough stud for the lug nut to thread onto.
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re read, i said the hr spacers ive mainly delt with were for euros. euros use stud bolts and not lug nuts, thus its much easier for them to run spacers as its just a matter of using a longer stud bolt. i am not aware that H&R spacers for japanese/domestic vehicles come with longer studs which would need to be pressed in.
i did not denounce H&R spacer quality, however i am more concerned with running a spacer and not long enough stud for the lug nut to thread onto.
i did not denounce H&R spacer quality, however i am more concerned with running a spacer and not long enough stud for the lug nut to thread onto.
ive never seen h&r spacers come with longer studs, though i could be wrong. you would still need them pressed in. i wouldnt trust any other brands cept for project kics for quality wise.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
the h&r spacers ive seen have mainly been for euro's, which come with longer bolts.
from my experience, anything more than a 5mm will mean about that 7 turn rule.
You go back and forth on what you say, so I don't know if you mean what you say or just type away.
BTW, studs being pressed in, which you repeat in every post, it's very simple to do.
Last edited by GS FONZy; Apr 15, 2008 at 03:25 PM.
ahh, cools. good to know now. i decided not to go with H&R spacers because of the pressed studs. I still use my stock 16s w/ winter tires and wanted the ability to not use the spacer if i choose to. with longer studs, im not sure if the stock lug nuts will still fit.
I did take some quick pics when installed my spacers, but never did much of a write up. very curious to see the differences between different styles of spacers.
I did take some quick pics when installed my spacers, but never did much of a write up. very curious to see the differences between different styles of spacers.
this is the h&r 25mm with the built in studs the guys were talking about, theres no work involved other then bolting them to the hub, and bolting the wheel to the spacer - effectively using two sets of lug nuts and no "pressing" of studs required. i also use these up front ( & 30mm in the back) when my stock wheels have to go on the car. this causes zero rubbing issues with tein cs v2 lowered all the way down
h&r also makes smaller spacers, but those ones do require you to replace the studs (included in kit), pictured below
you cant get the h&r with the built in studs for the gs in any other size besides 25mm, but project kics and a few other brands have them available in 15mm, 20mm and 30mm apps.
for the most part companies dont make anything less then a 15mm with the built in stud because it can cause fitment problems if the back of the wheel doesnt have cutouts to allow room for the part of the factory stud that would stick out past the spacer after its bolted up... know what i mean?
hope this answers some questions.
Last edited by upstateGS4; Apr 15, 2008 at 05:56 PM.
Isnt the stock 17" wheel 7" wide with a 50 offset? I thought that running a 25mm spacer on a stock wheel makes it sit pretty flush. So a wheel 8.5" wide with a 35 offset will sit pretty flush? am I right?