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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
You realize that cosmetically these stainless panels are much costlier to fix than paint right?
You can practically total a car now days by sneezing on it.

Doesn't take much.

Yeah, probably not doing paintless dent repair on stainless panels but body work isn't cheap either on a normal car unless a ding or small dent.

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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:10 PM
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Nothing can remove dents from the Cybertruck panels luckily almost nothing can dent them. They will get scratched up if you're careless but they can be re-grained. From what I can tell all the panels are replaceable. Some vehicles are not designed to have any body work done at all like Rivian you have to remove the top glass just to replace a quarter panel. Almost zero body shops will even attempt it. A fairly minor dent will total the vehicle.
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:35 PM
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Think about this. My house uses on average 600 kWh per month. That's 20 kWh per day, with 24 hours of appliances, AC, lights and EV charging. Do you actually think police accessories use even remotely that much energy? You don't think an 80 or 100 kWh battery pack can't handle police accessories, which probably use less than 2 kWh the whole day?
Why do police cars come with incredibly heavy duty alternators? Why do you think they idle so much?

If you’re told by the automaker (like Ford) to avoid running climate control and use only seat heaters in the cold, I think it’s safe to say the whole suite of police car accessories might be just a tad too much for an EV.

EVs have a place absolutely. Police cars? That’s ridiculous.
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Why do police cars come with incredibly heavy duty alternators? Why do you think they idle so much?

If you’re told by the automaker (like Ford) to avoid running climate control and use only seat heaters in the cold, I think it’s safe to say the whole suite of police car accessories might be just a tad too much for an EV.

EVs have a place absolutely. Police cars? That’s ridiculous.
Nobody is getting defensive, were trying to politely tell you that you are wrong. Regular police cars only have 12v electrical systems, while EVs have 400v and 800v systems. Do the math. You can believe whatever you want
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 09:51 PM
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All the equipment in a police cruiser don't add that much power draw. Source: I used to install the hardware, and back then it was much less efficient. Biggest draw was the light tree now it's gone LED probably 5x lower power. You have the radio, computer and a few other modules they are low-ish power units.
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Old Dec 2, 2023 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Why do police cars come with incredibly heavy duty alternators? Why do you think they idle so much?

If you’re told by the automaker (like Ford) to avoid running climate control and use only seat heaters in the cold, I think it’s safe to say the whole suite of police car accessories might be just a tad too much for an EV.

EVs have a place absolutely. Police cars? That’s ridiculous.
I live near Menlo Park, CA and they have model Y's in their fleet. Ive seen a few on the road. The article below says they started with 3, im not sure how many they have now.
https://driveteslacanada.ca/model-y/...lice-cruisers/



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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by AJT123
Laptop, siren, radio, lights, surveillance, mics, spotlights, and more.
Where is the power supposed to come from??? The sky?
those things use almost no power.

I don't need to do a poll. Ever watch Live PD? EVs would be just stupid for police duty. We have laid out tons of reasons and it's obvious. I would suggest you watch an episode of that and ask yourself if an EV would be ideal, honestly.
no i've not watched live pd. we'll see who's right.

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All the equipment in a police cruiser don't add that much power draw. Source: I used to install the hardware, and back then it was much less efficient. Biggest draw was the light tree now it's gone LED probably 5x lower power. You have the radio, computer and a few other modules they are low-ish power units.
exactly. now if officer bob is camped out by the side of the road finishing his box of doughnuts with seat heats running full blast for house, that may use a few more percent, i don't know.

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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 07:19 AM
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Remember that an F150 lightning can power your house for 3 days... the draw of the electronics is not the issue, the issue is the initial expense, the ongoing expense and risk of repair costs and the downtime required relative to the unpredicatble use need of the vehicle.
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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So for some context, the average American home uses about 29 kWh per day. My truck, which has a V2H capability, could power the average American home for roughly 5 days.
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 07:28 AM
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So for some context, the average American home uses about 29 kWh per day. My truck, which has a V2H capability, could power the average American home for roughly 5 days.
Yep, exactly
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 10:57 AM
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I always like Jason Camissa's videos and this did not disappoint. While I thought it was just a cool truck that I like, after watching the video I am even more impressed with the Cybertruck.
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Cybertruck completely eliminates the paint shop one of the most resource intensive and polluting parts of auto production. Your claims that no one will ever use Cybertruck for utility is ridiculous and will not age well. Quote me on it, you will be wrong.

No door dings is a HUGE benefit.
Not really since I have a grand total of zero of those across all my cars and my entire family has has zero as well.

HOWEVER, the fact it stops low velo handgun stuff is cool AF lol!
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
If you think about it, using cold rolled stainless steel on the outside was pretty ingenious, IMO. Yes, it is heavy, hard to form and not cheap, but Tesla was able to save money by not having to build a reinforced frame. This is most likely going to make this the safest vehicle in a crash.

As far as efficiency, I'm betting this is going to be more efficient than any electric truck despite its weight. I'll wait for the numbers to come out before I thump my chest

The manufacturing process was definitely not cheap, so it will be limited to the Cyber Truck, and it should be to keep it special
This process is ALL about cheap, no complex panel, no internal reinforcement, no handle cutouts, NO PAINT, and ability to go right off the forming machine onto end product. It's a financing department wet dream and brilliantly simple and cheap way to make panels, combine that with the cult of tesla and people will gladly pay more for less lol!
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 11:28 AM
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HOWEVER, the fact it stops low velo handgun stuff is cool AF lol!
LOL exactly! Now you get it and understand why I like it. Ugly as hell but cool AF.
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Old Dec 3, 2023 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
Not really since I have a grand total of zero of those across all my cars and my entire family has has zero as well.

HOWEVER, the fact it stops low velo handgun stuff is cool AF lol!
Not yet But never say never. Haha
I average one new ding a year from wife talking the car to walmart.

Then there was the time I accidently backed into a lumber cart at lowes, and that one is on me and I have to look at it every day.

That stunt was more than a ding, a real bonifide dent on the trunk lid that I don't think will pop out unless a miracle happens. Haha

BUT, even after all that I love my paint jobs and car colors, gotta have the flavors!
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