Kinda like that they held the release back for the US. If they make price adjustments which probably will happen because of the tax credits/potential interest rate changes, it's easier for them to hide it within the updated model. Plus, they get to create a bigger splash here with the introduction of a Performance/Plaid version as well.

 

Fremont had to change over; they make the 3 for the US. I am sooooo curious as to what the Performance is gonna be....

 

it looks good, but in the review in the other thread i posted they said it's just as much road noise as before, and they hated the button turn signals and no stalk (for 1 a deal breaker).

 

You can literally search for 3000 other reviews that say how much quieter it is.

 

I'm not wild about the button turn signals... Guess I'm gonna find out!

 

Makes total sense with steer by wire, otherwise it can be annoying. Tesla once again putting in future tech before the future completely arrives.

 

Where's OP @ST430 ?

I hope you're ok and things are going well.

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I'll text him. No, really I will. I have his number

 

agree with this. but highland doesn't have steer by wire, right? i think this is one of the biggest wins in the cybertruck, with rear steer as well.

i also think these features would make a stupid fast car like model s plaid a much better (and safer) vehicle.

 

No steer by wire Highland. I'm betting the $25,000 model will be 48 volt and steer by wire.
Safer in what way?

There might be a performance Model 3 hope they do it.

 

i think a car like a plaid with a yoke and no variable steering is just a bad idea.

 

Steer by wire makes me extremely nervous.

Ten years ago I would say it would be suicide for a company to do it.

But if they use double aka redundant position feedback sensors or stepping techniques it could make me squirm less only because of the advancements in collision safety.

Just think, steering fails with no mechanical connection to the wheels, no way for the owner to steer the car.

Collision safety tech could possibly slow the car down automatically or disable the car and hope and pray.

The big work will be having checks and redundancy because the steering can't fail, ever because it would be a disaster for the mfg.

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Oh the yoke. I've seen people track the car with it they seems to think it was fine but in the wrong hands then sure could be dangerous. I was wrong about steer by wire I thought it would cause people to over steer (literally) at low speeds but from what I've seen the brain quickly adapts and you don't want normal steering anymore.
I hear ya makes me nervous as well. The counter is aircraft has been using it for decades reliably. I wonder if the failure rate will be lower than mechanical steering, which can fail.

 

Hi Lex, I'm not sure.

Elevators have double redundancy feedback sensors.
But they also have brakes when that fails too and it's in a closed system too.

I will guess for a plane it will need a real redundancy as in separate power supply and wires for each thing.

Like a car with two schematics. Lol
If one fails the other one still works and they talk to and check on each other and if one system doesn't respond the redundant system kicks in and errors flagged for service when it's safe.

Just ideas but if EV battery is split as two independent circuits for steering redundancy, it could be ok.

 

Tesla is using tricks employed in aviation. Redundant motors, triple sensors that will consider the two correct if one disagree and other safety measures. There is a failure point removed no U-joint(s) from the wheel to rack. There have been crashes (RAV4 for example) caused by the intermediate shaft seizing.

It still makes me nervous, what's next brake by wire? Spoiler: yes that is next lol.