Programming a new Key fob
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Programming a new Key fob
Hello Everyone, I bought a 2019 Lexus ES350 ultra luxury, and I Exported it out of the UNITED States. The car came with one Key fob, so I bought a new key fob from the dealership, OBD2 Cable, and of course the latest version of techstream v14.10.033 from eBay. After watching a lot of YouTube explaining how to program key fob I was ready to program the key, but luck it asked me for pass-code. from all the YouTube i watched, it only asks for the pass-code when you do Key program Eraser. Is anyone has any Idea what to do?
-This function registers the key code to the certification ecu. -this function carries out online certification
when I click on GET Pass-Code
-This function registers the key code to the certification ecu. -this function carries out online certification
when I click on GET Pass-Code
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First thing I'd do is go back to the dealer and ask "where's my other key fob?" You should have been issued two smart key fobs...
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Sadly, no luck for what i did. I didn't do "smart code reset" cuz i'm scare if it ask me after rest for the same pass-code
Please, If anyone has any ideas or you know someone working in locksmith
Please, If anyone has any ideas or you know someone working in locksmith
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I am in a similar situation recently and just wanted to share my research results. I have a 2019 ES350 with 1 key fob. I wanted to add a spare one.
The situation you ran into is normal, as specified in this bulletin https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...62752-9999.pdf . It's a new security feature Toyota/Lexus implements on a few 2018, some 2019, and most 2020+ models. Unlike the traditional 96-digit seed number which can be cheaply deciphered using a code calculator, the new data1+data2+data3 type of seed number has not been cracked at all. The only way to pass through it is by acquiring the pass-code from Toyota's TIS Security Professional subscription. There are only two parties who can access it: Toyota/Lexus dealers or a NASTF Vehicle Security Professional (VSP) member. Years ago, NASTF came up with an agreement with automakers to access their proprietary security services. SVP is a program for professional locksmiths but I believe anyone can apply for it ($75 background checks + $325 membership fee for 2 years).
Because of the barrier of SVP and TIS subscription, the cost of doing it DIY is prohibitively expensive. You are looking at $400 for SVP and $65 for the minimum 2-day TIS subscription, not to mention the cost of finding someone to laser cut the spare key. In fact, the overwhelming majority of locksmiths in my area do not have these subscriptions. Many do not even realize the existence of the pass-code. If you are in the US and looking for a quote outside a dealer, tell them explicitly that you have a 2019+ Lexus with the pass-code that can only be accessed through TIS. There are two guys who quote me $100 and $125 for just the code (they said they have to acquire it from Toyota dealers), if I were to spend another $85 and $120 to program the key with them, respectively.
The best option for us in the US is to just go to a dealership. Two Toyota dealers charge $158 and $180 respectively for programming and cutting when I supply my own virgin key fob. I bought the OEM virgin key fob for $80 on eBay, making the total cost $238.
Alternatively, if you are outside of the US, you can buy a "Lexus Copy Type Smart Key PCB (0440B)" from Lonsdor for $50 and program it using a $200 Lonsdor KH100+ device. I guess some locksmiths may actually offer this option if you don't carry your own parts, but I didn't confirm it. However, this method is copying your working key instead of properly pairing the new key fob to the car. The only little drawback is that you cannot disable one key fob without disabling the other in case one is lost, and you cannot map different memory seat positions to different key fobs. Most people wouldn’t care about it I suppose.
Finally, if you are outside of the US and must program an OEM key fob, there is one (probably the only one) vendor that offers remote pass-code calculation based on data 1/2/3 seed numbers - The CarCode. Pretty sure it's a violation of NASTF's rules and may even promote car stealing to a certain extent, but no one has caught them up yet. It builds the service for US cars exported to Africa and South America. I chatted with them and they asked $200 for the pass-code, which doesn't make any sense for US customers but probably has a market overseas.
There are some options that I didn't check out: ask independent Toyota/Lexus/Scion repair shops to see if they have a security professional subscription or find an SVP locksmith. I'm pretty tired at this point so I'll just go to the dealer.
The situation you ran into is normal, as specified in this bulletin https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...62752-9999.pdf . It's a new security feature Toyota/Lexus implements on a few 2018, some 2019, and most 2020+ models. Unlike the traditional 96-digit seed number which can be cheaply deciphered using a code calculator, the new data1+data2+data3 type of seed number has not been cracked at all. The only way to pass through it is by acquiring the pass-code from Toyota's TIS Security Professional subscription. There are only two parties who can access it: Toyota/Lexus dealers or a NASTF Vehicle Security Professional (VSP) member. Years ago, NASTF came up with an agreement with automakers to access their proprietary security services. SVP is a program for professional locksmiths but I believe anyone can apply for it ($75 background checks + $325 membership fee for 2 years).
Because of the barrier of SVP and TIS subscription, the cost of doing it DIY is prohibitively expensive. You are looking at $400 for SVP and $65 for the minimum 2-day TIS subscription, not to mention the cost of finding someone to laser cut the spare key. In fact, the overwhelming majority of locksmiths in my area do not have these subscriptions. Many do not even realize the existence of the pass-code. If you are in the US and looking for a quote outside a dealer, tell them explicitly that you have a 2019+ Lexus with the pass-code that can only be accessed through TIS. There are two guys who quote me $100 and $125 for just the code (they said they have to acquire it from Toyota dealers), if I were to spend another $85 and $120 to program the key with them, respectively.
The best option for us in the US is to just go to a dealership. Two Toyota dealers charge $158 and $180 respectively for programming and cutting when I supply my own virgin key fob. I bought the OEM virgin key fob for $80 on eBay, making the total cost $238.
Alternatively, if you are outside of the US, you can buy a "Lexus Copy Type Smart Key PCB (0440B)" from Lonsdor for $50 and program it using a $200 Lonsdor KH100+ device. I guess some locksmiths may actually offer this option if you don't carry your own parts, but I didn't confirm it. However, this method is copying your working key instead of properly pairing the new key fob to the car. The only little drawback is that you cannot disable one key fob without disabling the other in case one is lost, and you cannot map different memory seat positions to different key fobs. Most people wouldn’t care about it I suppose.
Finally, if you are outside of the US and must program an OEM key fob, there is one (probably the only one) vendor that offers remote pass-code calculation based on data 1/2/3 seed numbers - The CarCode. Pretty sure it's a violation of NASTF's rules and may even promote car stealing to a certain extent, but no one has caught them up yet. It builds the service for US cars exported to Africa and South America. I chatted with them and they asked $200 for the pass-code, which doesn't make any sense for US customers but probably has a market overseas.
There are some options that I didn't check out: ask independent Toyota/Lexus/Scion repair shops to see if they have a security professional subscription or find an SVP locksmith. I'm pretty tired at this point so I'll just go to the dealer.
Last edited by LeonGT; 09-13-21 at 07:05 PM.
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