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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 07:32 PM
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Does anyone have more info on when the AWD ES will be available? Will it be mid this year?
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Old Feb 25, 2019 | 07:48 PM
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I don't think that soon but "someday.

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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:12 AM
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I was told by the dealer to expect that as an option for the 2020 model. Possibly as a replacement for GS.
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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The unibody that Lexus is using right now on the 2019 ES 350 will be the same for the AWD version. This according to my Lexus sales person. Notice the middle hump in the rear compartment of my 2019... Not needed for FWD only vehicles.
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bc6152

The unibody that Lexus is using right now on the 2019 ES 350 will be the same for the AWD version. This according to my Lexus sales person. Notice the middle hump in the rear compartment of my 2019... Not needed for FWD only vehicles.
My mom's old 2009 or 2012 (I can't remember) Avalon has a hump there too. I'm not sure if the hump means AWD is coming or we're just looking too far into it.
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 07:42 PM
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That is such a less intrusive tunnel than what I have in my GS. Pardon the dirty seat back.



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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 05:15 AM
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That is such a less intrusive tunnel than what I have in my GS. Pardon the dirty seat back.



Probably because the GS is RWD based, as opposed to the ES's FWD,
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Probably because the GS is RWD based, as opposed to the ES's FWD,
I believe that is correct.

On the AWD versions of FWD-based vehicles, like the NX or RAV4, Toyota/Lexus is using an electric motor to provide power to the rear wheels, instead of the mechanical linkage that is used on the AWD versions of RWD-based cars, like the GS, to provide power to the front wheels. And using the electric motor to send power to the rear wheels requires less space.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Probably because the GS is RWD based, as opposed to the ES's FWD,
Without a doubt.

Originally Posted by lesz
I believe that is correct.

On the AWD versions of FWD-based vehicles, like the NX or RAV4, Toyota/Lexus is using an electric motor to provide power to the rear wheels, instead of the mechanical linkage that is used on the AWD versions of RWD-based cars, like the GS, to provide power to the front wheels. And using the electric motor to send power to the rear wheels requires less space.
That's true, but only for the hybrid versions. The NX and RAV4 non-hybrid versions do have a shaft running back from the engine to power the rear wheels.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by JDR76

That's true, but only for the hybrid versions. The NX and RAV4 non-hybrid versions do have a shaft running back from the engine to power the rear wheels.
Thanks for the clarification.

That said, AWD versions of FWD cars do have smaller humps than AWD versions of RWD cars. As I think about it, though, I'm guessing that the taller humps required in AWD versions of RWD cars is, in large part, the result of the need for more space for transmission components.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lesz
Thanks for the clarification.

That said, AWD versions of FWD cars do have smaller humps than AWD versions of RWD cars. As I think about it, though, I'm guessing that the taller humps required in AWD versions of RWD cars is, in large part, the result of the need for more space for transmission components.
I agree. The entire engine/transmission layout affects it, not just the drive shaft.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 01:22 PM
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If it would happen and i think it will, it would be HYBRID set up.
Like the up coming AWD PRIUS.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nad1370
If it would happen and i think it will, it would be HYBRID set up.
Like the up coming AWD PRIUS.
Why do you think that? If Lexus is truly planning to discontinue the GS and if Lexus wants to use the ES as a replacement that will appeal to current GS buyers, there will need to be an AWD version of the ES350 and not just the ES300h.
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Originally Posted by lesz
Why do you think that? If Lexus is truly planning to discontinue the GS and if Lexus wants to use the ES as a replacement that will appeal to current GS buyers, there will need to be an AWD version of the ES350 and not just the ES300h.
Im saying if they will make it awd, it wont be with a driveshaft.
All car manufactures are aiming for top MPG it their class.
So makes sense that they will go the HYBRID route.
ES will not be a replacement for the GS if they discontinue it.
Just my opinion.
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Old Feb 28, 2019 | 04:39 PM
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There is no proof the GS will be discontinued. There was a semi-confirmation in a magazine that a new GS F is coming.
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