Cold air intake , thoughts ?
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Cold air intake , thoughts ?
Has anyone had a cold air intake installed on their 7th generation es 350 f sport ? If so, how is your experience ? Do you recommend? Any drawbacks ?
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Pole Position
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My personal opinion, backed by precisely zero evidence, is that all this stuff is useless snake oil. In the '60s on carbureted engines, sure. Today, carmakers have every aspect of the fuel/air mixture dialed in with such precision that aftermarket tinkering with it is useless at best and disrupts the balance built into all the sensors and injectors at worst. Unless your goal is simply to enjoy more engine noise, I wouldn't do any of that stuff for any perfornance reason.
Instructor
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Performance gains from CAI are negligible, if there really are any. You will change the sound which is what most desire. Cars today, especially an engine as old and refined as what's in the ES350, pretty much come from factory with CAI.
Racer
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Also, if you examine the factory configuration for air intake you'll see the intake is already from the coolest air source practical - it is from the grill side of the radiator area. Whereas most, if not all, of the after market cold air intakes are sucking air from the hot engine compartment area so they are in reality hot air intake systems.
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Not worth it on any application. lol. i used to hammer the bmw forums 10 years ago on this... wouldn't believe all the hate i got. then slowly... one by one... i turned the entire forum around. and then today if someone posts about an intake, they are the ones who get the heat. i wrote up a lot of detailed posts and articles on why "intakez" are a terrible idea. it's low hanging fruit for kids/men to install cause they can do it with simple hand tools. so a little bit of cash + hand tools + little time and of course their car is "faster" ... it has to be. in the 1990s when cars were designed with pen and paper and a dream sure intakez might help. but nah not today.
So yeah for no other reason alone than the ES is an adult classy car.. don't.
For some reason 2022 seems like it's the year where kids are doing all sorts of kid stuff to the ES here. luckily i haven't seen any of it in the real world so i think we're still safe LOL
So yeah for no other reason alone than the ES is an adult classy car.. don't.
For some reason 2022 seems like it's the year where kids are doing all sorts of kid stuff to the ES here. luckily i haven't seen any of it in the real world so i think we're still safe LOL
Instructor
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Not worth it on any application. lol. i used to hammer the bmw forums 10 years ago on this... wouldn't believe all the hate i got. then slowly... one by one... i turned the entire forum around. and then today if someone posts about an intake, they are the ones who get the heat. i wrote up a lot of detailed posts and articles on why "intakez" are a terrible idea. it's low hanging fruit for kids/men to install cause they can do it with simple hand tools. so a little bit of cash + hand tools + little time and of course their car is "faster" ... it has to be. in the 1990s when cars were designed with pen and paper and a dream sure intakez might help. but nah not today.
So yeah for no other reason alone than the ES is an adult classy car.. don't.
For some reason 2022 seems like it's the year where kids are doing all sorts of kid stuff to the ES here. luckily i haven't seen any of it in the real world so i think we're still safe LOL
So yeah for no other reason alone than the ES is an adult classy car.. don't.
For some reason 2022 seems like it's the year where kids are doing all sorts of kid stuff to the ES here. luckily i haven't seen any of it in the real world so i think we're still safe LOL
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Yep that's exactly why I bought it and moved on from the IS. I did NOT ant to be associated with that crowd after seeing those cars dumped on the floor with wheels facing the sky. I wanted a platform no kid would touch. Welcome to oldmanville. population: 1. PERFECT!!!!!!
this is why i low-key want a LIFT kit for my ES. To make it ride slightly higher than stock. No luck.
this is why i low-key want a LIFT kit for my ES. To make it ride slightly higher than stock. No luck.
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