i am more than satisfied with my 2019 ES 300 H. There is one thing however that I am not too pleased with, that is the wind noise. I may be too picky about it, but I feel there should be less of it. Everything seems tightly sealed. I was just wondering if there is anyone else having this problem. If you did what exactly did you do about it?

 

Not sure if the same but here's a thread about wind noise on 7th generation from the driver side window and what they have tried to fix it.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...d-noise-6.html

 

From the comments I have seen, this is an isolated problem - that is to say a number of people have experienced it but most do not. Fortunately, I am not experiencing it but I also have not spent much time (yet) at highway speeds so I may not the best judge. We have driven some interstate however and the only thing that occurred to me was that the car has as much road noise as our 2015 ESh, which was unexpected. But I am referring to tire slap rather than wind noise. My observations may be the difference in 17" rims on the 2015 and 18" rims on the 2019 (but so worth it!).

 

My guess is that you are correct in guessing that there would be differences in the amount of tire noise between having 17" wheels and 18" wheels.

With the Generation 6 ES, when Lexus announced the mid-cycle refresh for the 2016 model year, one of the improvements that Lexus touted was more sound insulation to reduce tire noise. Yet, there is more noise from the tires with my 2017 (post-mid-cycle refresh) ES than there was with the 2013 (pre-mid-cycle refresh) ES that I previously owned. I'm confident in guessing that the increased tire noise with the 2017 is the result of the fact that the 2013 had 17" wheels, and the 2017 has 18" wheels. When driving on very smooth pavement, there is no noticeable difference, but, on pavement that is not perfectly smooth, the difference is quite noticeable. When you reduce the distance between the rubber of the tires and the wheels, there is less space for the air in the tires to compress into when going over bumps, and the result is more noise from the tires.

I'm also confident in guessing that a 2019 F-sport ES with the 19" wheels has more tire noise than a non-F-sport with 17" or 18" wheels.

 

But our ES has the new “noise reducing” wheels.

In all seriousness, I have read the new model had improved sound isolation and I believe the two we took out on test drives all had the 17” rims so that statement seemed plausible. This car was delivered from another dealer and we never took one with 18” rims for a test drive. So the bottom line is that the 2019 with 17” rims seemed slightly quieter than our 2015 with 17” rims, but the 2019 with 18” rims has slightly more road noise. This is just from my seat of the pants evaluation and nothing scientific. I still think the new rims look terrific and the difference is pretty minor.

 

Wind is dynamic and can rush any of the openings and seals from different directions as turbulence does its things. All cars have pesky things called side mirrors which are not good for keeping air smooth. Just about every car model known to mankind has complaints of wind noise on their forums. Just something you have to deal with from time to time. Best thing you can do is inspect the mirrors and/or seals for obvious damage and/or dirt and do your best to keep the areas clean. The overall design of the car is already baked in so not much anyones going to be able to do. Also the quieter a car gets, the more you'll notice things that engineers have little control of like wind.

 

Are you guys able to hear other cars passing by with all the windows up and no music playing?

 

Is that a philosophical question? If so, then I would say yes.

 

LOL no its not. I just had my windows tinted and thought i can now hear more road noise than before - not sure if its psychological or they messed up something with the seal/weatherstripping.

 

Road noise has to do with the tire tread pattern, tire compound, and tire contact patch size.

The tire size, width, and sidewall height have no correlation to road noise measurements.

A larger sidewall would give you less harshness. But less vibration or noise isn't measurable.

Ideally you'd want the best tread pattern for air to escape and the smallest tire contact patch for low noise and resistance.

 

It's probably psychological but I suggest you inspect all 4 doors to make sure everything is zipped up properly.

 

i checked the inner window seal with the felt like material on top, it seems like theyre tight. The ones for the front windows seem to be higher, though, than the rear strips.

 

I have Moonroof wind Noise and i'm not sure if it normal or I'm picky, and yes after i had my windows tinted there wind noise coming from the driver and passenger windows.
Is it from the film or the way of the tinter installation

 

Yes! I think i found out it's the moonroof wind noise, which is mostly gone after i shut the inner roof liner panel. Did they take off your door panels when installing the tint?

 

Even I shut the liner panel off STILL I can hear wind noise and no they didn't take off the door panels off. The big issue for me that I bought the car and shipped out of the United States so no warranty