8th generation ES!
Lead Lap
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As I said. We don’t need to debate it here. If my table is wrong, I will stop posting here for a
month.
Likewise you do the same starting on day of debut when the specs of ES BEVs are officially released and also on all your assertions that it’s just a PHEV.
Let the bet begin!
month.
Likewise you do the same starting on day of debut when the specs of ES BEVs are officially released and also on all your assertions that it’s just a PHEV.
Let the bet begin!
Last edited by 703; Apr 19, 2025 at 05:42 PM.
Racer
Joined: Jan 2011
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From: oh
This information appears to come from this article. It's rumor, but it's an interesting read and may have elements of truth. We'll find out in a few days.
https://thoni.com.au/2026-lexus-es-u...future-debuts/
https://thoni.com.au/2026-lexus-es-u...future-debuts/
Lead Lap
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I’m highly confident that there will be 2 platforms. One for the ES350h and one for the BEV ES (350e and 500e). They will look distinctly different with similar dimensions.
The teaser photo is of the HEV. The teaser video is of the BEV.
Last edited by 703; Apr 19, 2025 at 05:51 PM.
Racer
Joined: Mar 2020
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From: CA
I don't know where you got that table data from but it is NOT completely factually true. Take a look at the 7th Refresh table entry claiming it was for model year 2025. In this universe that didn't happen. ES model year 2025 was the same as model year 2024 as well as model year 2023. Outside of the different model year dates on the documentation, there's no consumer discernible difference between those three model years.
The table also ignores the model year 2023 changes which a 7th Refresh label is much more appropriate than the bogus applying it to the "no changes" model year 2025. With model year 2023 the F Sport model type was split into two model types - F Sport Design and F Sport Handling -; center console and display was reconfigured; a major change in the infotainment system with the adoption of the "new" Lexus Interface system with user profiles, Drive Connect, Cloud Navigation, etc.; wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto added; and Curve Speed Management and Left Turn Vehicle Intersection Support was added to the Lexus Safety System.
Since the table has some dodgy data on past known generally available data doesn't lend confidence in the reliability of the table's source in prophesying future events.
The table also ignores the model year 2023 changes which a 7th Refresh label is much more appropriate than the bogus applying it to the "no changes" model year 2025. With model year 2023 the F Sport model type was split into two model types - F Sport Design and F Sport Handling -; center console and display was reconfigured; a major change in the infotainment system with the adoption of the "new" Lexus Interface system with user profiles, Drive Connect, Cloud Navigation, etc.; wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto added; and Curve Speed Management and Left Turn Vehicle Intersection Support was added to the Lexus Safety System.
Since the table has some dodgy data on past known generally available data doesn't lend confidence in the reliability of the table's source in prophesying future events.
Lead Lap
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,539
Likes: 936
I don't know where you got that table data from but it is NOT completely factually true. Take a look at the 7th Refresh table entry claiming it was for model year 2025. In this universe that didn't happen. ES model year 2025 was the same as model year 2024 as well as model year 2023. Outside of the different model year dates on the documentation, there's no consumer discernible difference between those three model years.
The table also ignores the model year 2023 changes which a 7th Refresh label is much more appropriate than the bogus applying it to the "no changes" model year 2025. With model year 2023 the F Sport model type was split into two model types - F Sport Design and F Sport Handling -; center console and display was reconfigured; a major change in the infotainment system with the adoption of the "new" Lexus Interface system with user profiles, Drive Connect, Cloud Navigation, etc.; wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto added; and Curve Speed Management and Left Turn Vehicle Intersection Support was added to the Lexus Safety System.
Since the table has some dodgy data on past known generally available data doesn't lend confidence in the reliability of the table's source in prophesying future events.
I don't know where you got that table data from but it is NOT completely factually true. Take a look at the 7th Refresh table entry claiming it was for model year 2025. In this universe that didn't happen. ES model year 2025 was the same as model year 2024 as well as model year 2023. Outside of the different model year dates on the documentation, there's no consumer discernible difference between those three model years.
The table also ignores the model year 2023 changes which a 7th Refresh label is much more appropriate than the bogus applying it to the "no changes" model year 2025. With model year 2023 the F Sport model type was split into two model types - F Sport Design and F Sport Handling -; center console and display was reconfigured; a major change in the infotainment system with the adoption of the "new" Lexus Interface system with user profiles, Drive Connect, Cloud Navigation, etc.; wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto added; and Curve Speed Management and Left Turn Vehicle Intersection Support was added to the Lexus Safety System.
Since the table has some dodgy data on past known generally available data doesn't lend confidence in the reliability of the table's source in prophesying future events.
Last edited by 703; Apr 20, 2025 at 02:28 AM.
Pit Crew
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From: CA
I absolutely love the fastback design, other than not isolating the rear axle noise. If this were available while I was shopping for my 7th gen, I would've got it in a heartbeat. Love my 7th gen though.
I guess I should also say I cross shopped a stinger as well when I was looking. Got really jealous that the euro g70 shooting brake never came to NA, so gave up on my fastback dream to settle on the nice reliable ES.
I guess I should also say I cross shopped a stinger as well when I was looking. Got really jealous that the euro g70 shooting brake never came to NA, so gave up on my fastback dream to settle on the nice reliable ES.
Last edited by Jersey5974; Apr 21, 2025 at 01:48 AM.
Lexus Test Driver
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I absolutely love the fastback design, other than not isolating the rear axle noise. If this were available while I was shopping for my 7th gen, I would've got it in a heartbeat. Love my 7th gen though.
I guess I should also say I cross shopped a stinger as well when I was looking. Got really jealous that the euro g70 shooting brake never came to NA, so gave up on my fastback dream to settle on the nice reliable ES.
I guess I should also say I cross shopped a stinger as well when I was looking. Got really jealous that the euro g70 shooting brake never came to NA, so gave up on my fastback dream to settle on the nice reliable ES.
