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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 03:54 AM
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First off, this is my first post so HI!

Ok now my question is. I had just picked up a 93 es300 in mint condition except for the engine makes a nasty knocking sound for a fairly good price. I suspect it to be rod knock. Anyway what other engine/s can I put in there? Will the Toyota Camry engine work? They seem to be very similar if not the same but can anyone confirm?

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Pang
First off, this is my first post so HI!

Ok now my question is. I had just picked up a 93 es300 in mint condition except for the engine makes a nasty knocking sound for a fairly good price. I suspect it to be rod knock. Anyway what other engine/s can I put in there? Will the Toyota Camry engine work? They seem to be very similar if not the same but can anyone confirm?

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ya as long as its a v6
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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What octane gas are you using? Also is it more of a ticking noise?
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Rod damage is extremely rare on a 3vz-fe. Inspect for other damage. I highly doubt you have a rod knocking.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by koolaidman
ya as long as its a v6

So I would have no problem putting a 95 engine I found into? I hear the 92-93 engines have a cast iron block and the newers ones are aluminum? I just want to be sure.


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Rod damage is extremely rare on a 3vz-fe. Inspect for other damage. I highly doubt you have a rod knocking.[quote]

Its really loud, sound speeds up as engine rpm climbs and a big power loss....
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mcelligott
What octane gas are you using? Also is it more of a ticking noise?


its more of a TOCK TOCK TOCK TOCK noise
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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You must use a 3vz-fe. 92-93 ES/Camry in North America. In other parts of the world they were sold through 97.5 in places. You can't not use any other engine without swapping everything out.

I still dont't think it's rod knock.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Pheonix
You must use a 3vz-fe. 92-93 ES/Camry in North America. In other parts of the world they were sold through 97.5 in places. You can't not use any other engine without swapping everything out.

I still dont't think it's rod knock.

Is there a place where the engine code is stamped? I need to find one asap. Im pretty sure it was a rod bearing since I started it today and rev it up a little and BOOM out goes the rod out the back of the block.

I appreciate your help!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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There's nothing you need to know. The 1mz-fe for North American cars are 94+. You MUST have a 92-93 Camry/ES v6 if you buy an american one.
Most of us would buy a JDM 3vz-fe. They're normally lower mileage & easier to buy. 92-93 North American v6's are next to impossible to find.
If you have emessions testing, you'll need to swap your current exhaust manifold, intake manifold & EGR pipes over. If you don't have emessions testing F-it.


That's the strangest thing I've ever heard. It's a >300lbs iron block, and rods that will handle well over 450bhp.
Oh well, can't win 'em all I guess!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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The engine code is usually "stamped" on the timing belt cover (as for the 3vz-fe). "The black plastic cover." I just got my 30-50K JDM 3VZ-FE for $748 @ attarco. But it's only the head and the block, no intake plenum parts, harmonic balance, etc. So I just used my old parts. The motor's already in my car, and it is up and running again. I found some 100K 3VZ's at the salvage yards but they wanted $800-$1000. It seemed like a rip off because those motors are already used for so long.

Here's a picture of the motor from the side. And the "3VZ-FE" is usually not white, it's supposed to be imprinted on the t-belt cover.

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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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Thanks for the pic. How can you tell the engine is JDM?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Check it's VIN, or buy one from an engine importer. There are a bunch of importers online. There's like 2-4 always on ebay.




All 3vz-fe & the SOHC trucks also have a big huge 3VZ stamped on the front (Left hand) side of the block.


You can see it there on the top left of that picture.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Thanks, i'll keep yous posted on what I find!
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:13 PM
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when i bought my 96 i had a similar sound.....it was a blown(or chipped lifter) but it was written into the contract and was fixed before i picked up the car.


and im not the most mechanically inclined but it was a 1" diameter cylander piece with a lip. the chip was out of the lip. . anyways good luck!
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Thanks, i'll keep yous posted on what I find!
Try K.Watanabe if you're looking for a good engine. They're the largest and oldest supplier of JDM Toyota engines here in the US.

www.kwcengine.com

As mentioned above. Stick with the 3VZ-FE that you have in your ES...or Camry V6 model (92-93 ONLY). The JDM versions do not have an EGR assembly since they do not require such emission components on their vehicles.

The 2VZ-FE (Camry/ES) and the 2VZ-E (Toyota Trucks) were notorious for blown head gaskets.
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