Struts / Shocks question for 2000 ES
Struts / Shocks question for 2000 ES
Brief history; this is Platinum edition and I am the original owner. Currently with 289k miles.
About two years front Struts/Shocks were replaced by non OEM part. Since then, ride is very stiff, which I don't like. Back is still with original, don't make any noises going over bumps buy it has sunk about an inch or two. Time to replace Struts/Shocks on the back. I would want to replace all the four since I don't see any mechanical issues with the car and hope to keep it for some more years.
Here are my question;
About two years front Struts/Shocks were replaced by non OEM part. Since then, ride is very stiff, which I don't like. Back is still with original, don't make any noises going over bumps buy it has sunk about an inch or two. Time to replace Struts/Shocks on the back. I would want to replace all the four since I don't see any mechanical issues with the car and hope to keep it for some more years.
Here are my question;
- Does Platinum edition comes with air shocks?
- What do you recommend as a good replacement still provides decent soft ride (besides OEM)?
- Anything else I need to consider while these gets replaced?
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For non-air systems, most people use KYB as the non-OE replacement. They ARE the OEM; their GR-2/Excel G strut is their aftermarket replacement and the closest match AFAIK. They work well; I have had them about 50k now. they felt firmer for maybe 10 to 15k then felt stock after that. For your rear springs, the OE are expensive; Moog makes a replacement that works well and is only about $65 for the pair. I have used those also and have been satisfied with the performance and longevity so far (50k also).
Also looking at KYB replacement catalog, 'suspension strut mount kid' is also listed. Should I get that as well or can I reuse original one ?. Eg, for front left :
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The KYB "quick strut" is an option - this is the combined strut/spring/mount all together, vs. buying a strut and re-using struts and mounts. It is about $160 for the strut/spring/mount all assembled, and $60 for the strut alone if you assemble it yourself (per corner). It should work fine. BUT: some people have a lot of problems with aftermarket upper mounts (with the bearings in them), including the KYB ones. So what I did was re-use my factory upper mounts, and compress the Moog springs onto the KYB struts and original upper mount. KYB did not offer a separate spring for my year type (02-06), but there are more choices on earlier models. Up front, I did the same except re-used the factory front springs; they rarely ever wear out. I saved a lot of money doing this, and I felt I had a better chance to avoid upper mount issues later on even by re-using high mileage OE mounts vs. new aftermarket based on the many stories of problems with them I read about both hear and at Toyotanation.com.
Thanks Oro, that helps.
Just to be clear, struts don't come with springs. I could re-use original spring with these new struts?. I will get strut mounts as well for all four struts. Thanks for your help. Any thing else that I need to consider?.
Just to be clear, struts don't come with springs. I could re-use original spring with these new struts?. I will get strut mounts as well for all four struts. Thanks for your help. Any thing else that I need to consider?.
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- Just to be clear, struts don't come with springs.
- I could re-use original spring with these new struts?.
- I will get strut mounts as well for all four struts.
- Thanks for your help. Any thing else that I need to consider?
You might want to look at your sway bar bushings to see if they need attention. Check your end-links, as it's all right there when you do this. Check the control arm bushings. Also while it's open, check the brake pads and disc wear.
If you are going to do the work, it might be worth jacking it up and taking the wheels off to look around to verify those points and others ahead of time so you get all the parts you need.
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KYB is an excellent strut but they don't come anywhere near to duplicating the OEM ride KYB is significantly stiffer. Monroe will be much closer (not talking about the complete units) to the original ride but likely won't last as long. If you want exactly the OE ride back then you have to buy the OE struts.
As for the KYB's mellowing to be close to OEM that's not my experience, they do soften but after 60,000+ miles on the one car I did they still don't come close to the OE ride quality.
As for the KYB's mellowing to be close to OEM that's not my experience, they do soften but after 60,000+ miles on the one car I did they still don't come close to the OE ride quality.
KYB is an excellent strut but they don't come anywhere near to duplicating the OEM ride KYB is significantly stiffer. Monroe will be much closer (not talking about the complete units) to the original ride but likely won't last as long. If you want exactly the OE ride back then you have to buy the OE struts.
As for the KYB's mellowing to be close to OEM that's not my experience, they do soften but after 60,000+ miles on the one car I did they still don't come close to the OE ride quality.
As for the KYB's mellowing to be close to OEM that's not my experience, they do soften but after 60,000+ miles on the one car I did they still don't come close to the OE ride quality.
Do you meant to say Monroe struts and reuse original springs?. I did see some negative feedback on Monroe quick struts. They have OESpectrum and Monro-Matic strut lines. Which one are you referring?.
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