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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:00 PM
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wow, your hatred for anything not tesla is lame..
I've owned Lucid stock have you?
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:02 PM
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I've owned Lucid stock have you?
Well that's your first mistake . I just dumped all my Polestar stock which was going nowhere
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:11 PM
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This may be off topic since it's not about EV prices, but someone said in another thread that the Accord will die in a handful of years and be replaced with an EV CUV. Is this true? If so, why couldn't they just build an electric Accord? Not everybody wants a CUV.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
This may be off topic since it's not about EV prices, but someone said in another thread that the Accord will die in a handful of years and be replaced with an EV CUV. Is this true? If so, why couldn't they just build an electric Accord? Not everybody wants a CUV.
I don't really have the answer to that as I don't follow Honda news. I also don't like CUV's, but most of today's buyers do, so this is the trend for automobiles the last 5 or 6 years
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Well that's your first mistake . I just dumped all my Polestar stock which was going nowhere
Au contraire I did very well. Was planning to keep buying and hold long term but the more I saw of the CEO and the general direction of things the less trust I had. Would I buy any now? Maybe for short term trading, as an investment too risky. PSNY is way way down I'm temped to buy.

I don't hate Lucid very much the opposite, I was hoping they'd succeed long term and said so several years ago.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:26 PM
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Look who's joined the EV wars, with price cuts, MSRP with no ADM's and everything

  • Ford cut the price of its all-electric pickup truck, the F-150 Lightning XLT, with an extended-range battery
  • Ford lowered the price of the F-150 Lightning XLT with Extended Range battery by $2,100. The Lightning XLT now starts at $78,875. The price cut makes the XLT variant eligible for the IRA’s $7,500 tax credit since its MSRP falls below $80,000


https://www.teslarati.com/ford-f-150...ut-tax-credit/
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
I don't really have the answer to that as I don't follow Honda news. I also don't like CUV's, but most of today's buyers do, so this is the trend for automobiles the last 5 or 6 years
Going to do a cost analysis (maybe tonight after everybody goes to bed) to determine the cheapest route for car ownership. Gas, insurance, initial cost, maintenance, all of it. Sick of dropping $80 at a gas station for 320 miles. I want a nice sedan that's big, smooth over any kind of garbage road that has cheap initial and recurring costs. I know electricity is going to increase steadily as well though and there isn't anything that interests me on the EV side, especially for a price I'd consider. An electric Accord or Camry would be great (if 500 miles would cost around 20 bucks in electicity) but sadly those nameplates are likely going away for more lame CUV's.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
Going to do a cost analysis (maybe tonight after everybody goes to bed) to determine the cheapest route for car ownership. Gas, insurance, initial cost, maintenance, all of it. Sick of dropping $80 at a gas station for 320 miles. I want a nice sedan that's big, smooth over any kind of garbage road that has cheap initial and recurring costs. I know electricity is going to increase steadily as well though and there isn't anything that interests me on the EV side, especially for a price I'd consider. An electric Accord or Camry would be great (if 500 miles would cost around 20 bucks in electicity) but sadly those nameplates are likely going away for more lame CUV's.
In today's car market, nothing is cheap right now. Civic, Corolla, etc. An EV Camry or Accord is at least 4 to 5 years away. Your best bet for gas savings is try and find a used Civic or Corolla....2018 through 2020. For EV's, the cheapest EV's right now are the Chevy Bolt (discontinued at the end of the year) or the Nissan Ariya. I met a guy with the Ariya on my last trip and he loves it.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
In today's car market, nothing is cheap right now. Civic, Corolla, etc. An EV Camry or Accord is at least 4 to 5 years away. Your best bet for gas savings is try and find a used Civic or Corolla....2018 through 2020. For EV's, the cheapest EV's right now are the Chevy Bolt (discontinued at the end of the year) or the Nissan Ariya. I met a guy with the Ariya on my last trip and he loves it.
You ain't kidding! Here's a recent example one of my coworkers was greeted with when looking to by a sensibly priced Civic. I saw it posted today.

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Originally Posted by jwong77
You ain't kidding! Here's a recent example one of my coworkers was greeted with when looking to by a sensibly priced Civic. I saw it posted today.

What a freaking rip-off! I really hate dealerships with all the being I can muster . I bought a fully loaded 2018 Civic Si for $24K and some change...out the door!!!!! I would tell that dealership where they can stick it
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Old May 10, 2023 | 02:09 PM
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15 grand in market adjustment is criminal. 50k for a Civic, no thanks.

Everything is outrageously priced, used or new. My wife's friend recently bought a 2013 Civic, LX mind you, and it had 120k miles. Paid 13k for it. A CIVIC. It's gotten out of hand.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 02:26 PM
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This is the cheapest car to own you can buy. Sure you give up safety, tech, power.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=678958984
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
This is the cheapest car to own you can buy. Sure you give up safety, tech, power.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-...ngId=678958984
Those cars simply won't die. No surprise that driver handle was replaced. I don't think I've ever seen a 92-01 Camry that didn't have one replaced at one point or another. Lol
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Old May 10, 2023 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by xjokerz
No surprise that driver handle was replaced. I don't think I've ever seen a 92-01 Camry that didn't have one replaced at one point or another. Lol
Weakest part of the car. Previous generation has all metal handles including inside.

My point is there is more to the equation than raw cost to own.
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Old May 10, 2023 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Weakest part of the car. Previous generation has all metal handles including inside.

My point is there is more to the equation than raw cost to own.
I get it. I could go find a 91 Accord for 1,000 bucks but it probably wouldn't even have traction control OR a CD player.

I like my 08 RX-350 but going to the gas station constantly, for as much as I drive, is getting really old. Premium too, which I last paid $5.29 here.

Like I said, I'm going to take everything into consideration. I suppose those smaller EV's that I was against for so long aren't any longer a bad option. As long as I could get 250-300 miles range out of it and it doesn't take forever to charge.
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