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Old May 3, 2023 | 10:49 AM
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Geely Adopts Tesla's "Giga Press" Manufacturing Technique

The diecasting technique saves time and money by allowing EVs to be built with many fewer body parts

That is one ugly design I hope never touches these shores.....



https://insideevs.com/news/665089/ge...ing-technique/
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Old May 3, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Margate330
Mustang will be a hit!
Looks good.



You got that right!

My dad told me when I was a young man, "you can please some people some of the time but you will never please everyone all the time".
Has proven itself true to me over and over again.
Didn't Forrest Gump say that? Nevermind, that was "Box of chocolates"....
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Old May 3, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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Porsche Plans "Very Steep" Taycan EV Production Ramp

A shortage of high-voltage heaters slowed the production of the sporty electric sedan



"Porsche says demand for the Taycan continues to be strong across the globe. Customers have been waiting many months for their EVs, and the drop in market share can only be attributed to supply chain issues and a lack of parts"

https://insideevs.com/news/665336/po...on-ramp-ahead/
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Old May 3, 2023 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Didn't Forrest Gump say that? Nevermind, that was "Box of chocolates"....
I think he did, loved that movie!

I for one am happy that prices are declining. I've been shopping many vehicles recently, and these price drops makes me consider getting a second EV over the other cars I was shopping for.
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Old May 3, 2023 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
I think he did, loved that movie!

I for one am happy that prices are declining. I've been shopping many vehicles recently, and these price drops makes me consider getting a second EV over the other cars I was shopping for.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't price drops good for the consumer? Especially when they create price wars? How many times have we heard "I refuse to pay MSRP or above MSRP?" Well doesn't that hurt dealerships? And lastly, should Tesla be held responsible if other automakers lose money and can't compete?

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Old May 3, 2023 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
... should Tesla be held responsible if other automakers lose money and can't compete? I'll wait for the answer....
Of course not. Why are you asking?
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Old May 3, 2023 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike728
Of course not. Why are you asking?
Because I felt the urge
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Old May 3, 2023 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
...Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't price drops good for the consumer? Especially when they create price wars? ...


It's complicated....
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
... How many times have we heard "I refuse to pay MSRP or above MSRP?" ...
Just FYI, anyone who buys mfg direct and then sees a price drop, Uhm, you just paid over MSRP. haha OOPS! haha
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Originally Posted by Margate330


It's complicated....
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Just FYI, anyone who buys mfg direct and then sees a price drop, Uhm, you just paid over MSRP. haha OOPS! haha
Yeah, please don't rub it in
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Normally, when the gov issues a "tax credit" for consumers, all that happens is the price of the vehicle goes up. Turns into a big payout to the businesses, and the consumer sees little to nothing. But it only works if everyone plays along and raises prices. Elon decided to drop prices, so competitors couldn't steal the credit with higher prices because they won't get the volume they need to be profitable, even with the higher margins. Good for him.
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786

Geely Adopts Tesla's "Giga Press" Manufacturing Technique

The diecasting technique saves time and money by allowing EVs to be built with many fewer body parts

That is one ugly design I hope never touches these shores.....



https://insideevs.com/news/665089/ge...ing-technique/
This goes to show how quickly chinese EV makers are adopting Tesla tech. How much longer do you think Tesla have until it gets kicked out? Whatever volume and jobs Tesla provides now and lost can be absorbed by growing chinese domestic manufacturers. As a matter of fact, they would want them for the expertise gained while working at Tesla.
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Originally Posted by situman
This goes to show how quickly chinese EV makers are adopting Tesla tech. How much longer do you think Tesla have until it gets kicked out? Whatever volume and jobs Tesla provides now and lost can be absorbed by growing chinese domestic manufacturers. As a matter of fact, they would want them for the expertise gained while working at Tesla.
Could be, and I wouldn't doubt that Chinese automakers will one day dominate the EV market, but not with these designs. They still have a ways to go
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Old May 3, 2023 | 03:22 PM
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Ford is currently losing over $50,000 per EV sold, from what I gather they are hoping to be around 8% EV operating margin in 2026. Tough spot to be in the more EVs they sell they more money they lose. The more EVs replace ICE sales the less cash flow they have.




Originally Posted by RXSF
Lol, so crazy...Elon just changes prices based on his mood in the morning
Tesla prices are in part set via algorithm based on real time sales data.



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Old May 3, 2023 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by LeX2K
Ford is currently losing over $50,000 per EV sold, from what I gather they are hoping to be around 8% EV operating margin in 2026. Tough spot to be in the more EVs they sell they more money they lose. The more EVs replace ICE sales the less cash flow they have.
Tesla prices are in part set via algorithm based on real time sales data.
Do you mean $5K or $50K?
A huge start up venture like manufacturing an electric vehicle is going to lose money until expertise and production get to a certain point.

I am not a fan of the Mach E (and its ripped off name). I am not sure how an electric drivetrain will work in a pickup; especially with a load.
Time will tell. I think Tesla's price cuts are Ford, and everybody else's problem. They are already strapped.
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