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Old Dec 10, 2022 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
If I wanted a number chaser, I would buy a Plaid, not any hybrid, period
No, you would buy gas. EVs have no chance in that game, Texas racing alone should show you that lol!
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Originally Posted by Striker223
No, you would buy gas. EVs have no chance in that game, Texas racing alone should show you that lol!
Show me one video of a street legal vehicle beating a Plaid (in a straight line) and I'll concede the argument to you. Vehicle can even cost up to $300k and must be 100 percent ICE

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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Show me one video of a street legal vehicle beating a Plaid (in a straight line) and I'll concede the argument to you. Vehicle can even cost up to $300k and must be 100 percent ICE
Lol. Okay, I'll send over 10+ just remove the space to view so they don't clutter the thread.

Here is a truck beating one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxWcM2mqC6g

Dodge https://www.youtube.com/shorts/99RIJoSggyY

GTR, there are so many GTR with stock motors and tunes that beat these it's not worth linking a bunch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e7VSs_mBrQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKOYMe3Dlnw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvl9UTN7uD4 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8FiX_V4_Pyg Some from a dig some from a roll.

Viper doing runs outside of it's window https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozu5FrJ2xsU

A true street kill by a vette,C5/6/7s are so plentiful and any of them that makes 800wheel can win from a roll for under 40k total cost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOEKoHxXWMg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTfb8s4eASc

Audi smacking one around badly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWQaAkYgftY

A few old hondas, the last one is just an ebay turbo. All of these are sub 15k builds.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VWJJjx94c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdFx0Mvc3B4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLP704KdIlE

And naturally, stock engine 911s since they are rightfully the kings. You can take these to a far higher level than this but it's not needed to beat EVs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U98gBQ2WQ0M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uZ9D-XA1U0

There you go. There are so many cars faster than EVs it's not even funny, it doesn't even take all that much to build something that can take them down since a freaking F-150 with twins can do it. Heck, my truck can take down the earlier model S and if I really wanted to I could swtich to an R3 block and twins as well but I'm fine with "only" low 800s hp. There are so many way to make engines crazy fast but the one thing that is in common with all of them is that it is NEVER the hybrid versions that people make quick since the EV side of it is impossible to alter or control.

This is just as you asked, straight-line only, with under 300k price tag and pure gas engines. I made sure to include as many pump gas stock engine internals cars I could easily find in a quick search, there are so so so many fast combos for ICE cars that it would be pointless for me find them all since every brand has at least one killer combo that is a known pathway to these levels. You just end up seeing a lot of 5.0s, Hondas, and AWD cars since they are either cheap or easy to make fast. If you want to be the fastest EVs are a non-starter, especially if you do higher speed runs and I'll tell you now that higher speed stuff is really addictive once you get a taste of 200+. Nothing else compares to the feeling IMO

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Originally Posted by Striker223
Lol. Okay, I'll send over 100+
Just one will be ok. Must be street legal as the Plaid is street legal in all 50 States
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
Just one will be ok. Must be street legal as the Plaid is street legal in all 50 States
All of the ones I sent are 100% street cars lol! That F150 in the first video is a STOCK engine internals and transmission btw.....
Since I'm an Audi guy I'll also throw in some TTRS builds even though they are cutting edge and not really fair to put up against just an EV, all stock engines other than turbo swaps. You can have one of these for 40k less than the tesla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= 5eEOiS-wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= RmBPE_PJCOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= qgGxtjT6FDw

Visit Texas sometime, it's really revealing just how fast things are outside of cali since there is nothing else to do lol!

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Originally Posted by Striker223
This is likely not going to end up being the fastest unless there will be a way to sync up an 850hp modified main engine to the front motor correctly.
ha, you always think of the mod / build-up possibilities. do people actually 'modify' hybrid drivetrains? i would think the oem software/control are very complex and in no way intended to be modified.

The base models are already far faster than an 1000hp version since they are so easy to build up, hopefully GM makes integration of the front motor easy to control since people would love a small motor to provide 60ft consistency.
a 2wd 1000hp car is just a way to roast tires.
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No way a stock engine GTR is besting a Plaid. The engine and transmission need to be built before that happens and it’s big bucks to do that. Plus when modifying cars at that level they become a money pit and have compromises to get to that level. Add to that put street tires on them and it’s even harder.
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Originally Posted by Striker223
All of the ones I sent are 100% street cars lol! That F150 in the first video is a STOCK engine internals and transmission btw.....
Since I'm an Audi guy I'll also throw in some TTRS builds even though they are cutting edge and not really fair to put up against just an EV, all stock engines other than turbo swaps. You can have one of these for 40k less than the tesla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= 5eEOiS-wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= RmBPE_PJCOQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= qgGxtjT6FDw

Visit Texas sometime, it's really revealing just how fast things are outside of cali since there is nothing else to do lol!
None of those video links work, which is very revealing. @patgilm mentioned something about a GTR. A stock GTR doesn't even come close to a Plaid.The only youtube video I've seen where a Plaid is beaten by a GTR is one so modified, not even close to street legal, and shakes violently at idle LOL. You can see the owners spent hundreds of thousand and lots of hours on it keeping it running so it doesn't blow up LOL. So you still haven't shown me yet one instance of an unmodified street legal ICE vehicle that can beat a Plaid. I'll continue to patiently wait for one.

I've been to Texas multiple times, my company has an office in San Antonio, everytime I travel out there and I've driven their hwy and roads multiple times. I love Texas and Texans, but I can't stand their hot summers and cold winters, and thunderstorms that suddenly come in and flood everything. Otherwise the people are awesome

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Originally Posted by Margate330
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You'd never make it down here is S. Fl, way too hot for ya. lol
Last few posts are interesting and maybe ya'll think a new thread for this subject? Could be fun.

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>> About the Corvette, another car on my long bucket list but the prices ya'll are reporting for these from low to mid $100k's for new means
the used ones will be out of my price range what I'd be willing to spend.
Might have to remove from my list.

Saw a newer one the other day in Blue and it really looks and sounds good.
Not the newest like in this thread but it was unique in every way I could see.
The way the engine sounded it was definately not stock.
I've been to Miami, Fort Lauderdale etc. Beautiful state, gorgeous beaches, but I'm afraid of hurricanes more than I am of earthquakes!
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Car driving on the street doesn't mean it is street legal. Can't believe I have to say that.
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Car driving on the street doesn't mean it is street legal. Can't believe I have to say that.
I think my friend Strikers definition of "street" and "legal" is different from most . But it's all good bro!
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https://jalopnik.com/the-electric-ca...1791378592/amp

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​​​​​​Hmmm, jealousy runs deep... the new anti EV angle when all others fail. No need to be jealous boys
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That article is over 5 years old. But don't worry jalopnik is still as butthurt today as they were in 2017 it's their business model.
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That article is over 5 years old. But don't worry jalopnik is still as butthurt today as they were in 2017 it's their business model.
LOL talk about harboring internal anger. Just let it out, don't hold it in or you'll get ulcers.

But it does show you, the hate goes back years, so do the arguments

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