S500 vs. G90 vs. LS500
An ever shrinking group of people prefer print media. To say its dying is a dramatic understatement. Way more people read C&D online than read the magazine.
That was my Dad's industry, I can name dozens of bankrupt companies to prove that point lol
This article is a great example, I get WAY more out of a Straight Pipes comparison than this C&D article.
That was my Dad's industry, I can name dozens of bankrupt companies to prove that point lol
This article is a great example, I get WAY more out of a Straight Pipes comparison than this C&D article.
There just might be something to the "quirks" issue. Scotty Kilmer, for instance, probably gets a lot of hits from people who just want to be entertained by him raising his voice and flinging his arms around.
And Doug Demro is well-known for the way he introduces each review......"And TTTHHHIIISSS is the (whatever vehicle)"
There's nothing to stop C&D or MT from putting such descriptions in their articles either, and they did do so in other comparison tests that were far better-written than this one, but I don't think even if they did that and made videos it would change the fundamental difference in appeal. The most popular YT car personalities- Doug Demuro, Scotty Kilmer, Supercar Blondie- all have one thing in common: their viewers are generally more focused on their quirks or lifestyle rather than the car they're reviewing. C&D and MT, regardless of their quality, have always placed the car before any personality.
That said i absolutely hate Doug Demuro as a car reviewer, and there are many people that agree with me and don't watch him either even if he does get a million or two views per video. He does not do a good job of actually reviewing the car imo and never has. I much rather be reading news articles than listening to him.
EDIT: saw your comment how you don't think Doug's viewers aren't car enthusiasts and I do agree with that.
Having had V8s myself and now I6 turbo (similar size, similar weight), I can agree to this. I can see one reason for big V8 if you tow a lot. But even so, when I see a vehicle towing something big, it's almost certain it's not a non American truck. So in any case, Toyota/Lexus know it's not a profitable piece of cake for them. I6 turbo is plenty for this S500. 4.5 is very fast!
…there are better V8s out there. Chevrolets new V8 at 670HP for a naturally aspirated engine. 2.6 0-60 times. That is some serious engineering (in this day and age). 8600RPM 
Lexus is just super cheap. The largest automaker in the world. They 100% could do a state of the art V8. If General Motors can do it…Toyota can too
As per inline 6. Glad MB is doing it. Toyota used to doing. Land Cruiser, Soarer, Supra all had inline 6. Now they don’t
Last edited by Toys4RJill; Oct 22, 2022 at 06:54 PM.
And, not only that, but all else equal, a larger V8 also weighs more, which, again all else equal, affects the car's center-of-gravity, weight-distribution, steering/handling response, and braking action.
No offense, Jill, but IMO you've been reading too much of that old street-rod stuff from the days before modern engineering and electronic engine-controls. Today's V8 engines, with often-smaller displacement than the ones I grew up with, are producing astounding amounts of HP and torque.....
, you have smaller-displacement Hemis than those in the late 60s producing up to 800 HP stock from the factory. Simply insane.
And, not only that, but all else equal, a larger V8 also weighs more, which, again all else equal, affects the car's center-of-gravity, weight-distribution, steering/handling response, and braking action.
And, not only that, but all else equal, a larger V8 also weighs more, which, again all else equal, affects the car's center-of-gravity, weight-distribution, steering/handling response, and braking action.
That's why I said "all else equal", a larger engine is heavier. There are obviously other factors here in the design and construction.
Last edited by mmarshall; Oct 23, 2022 at 12:35 PM.
The larger V8s have no disadvantage at all to smaller displacement engines since their physical footprint is less. The most extreme example is the fact you can fit a 7.0L engine in a Miata and only gain 50lb
The smallest engine I own in terms of physical size is by far the largest displacement and power output, 6.8L and over 4 inches smaller in overall size in one dimension than my 3uz or EA824 and outpowers both combined. It's 5 inches smaller in all dimensions than the 1/3UR engines as well. It's also smaller in size than the 2.5 V6 I have, it also weighs the same since it's weight is only 500lb since it's an iron block engine vs the rest of the V8s being aluminum.
Last edited by Striker223; Oct 23, 2022 at 10:21 AM.














