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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
ok, couple of questions...

will you or your wife be driving this mostly?
if your wife, does she care if it's a rocket? (like 53amg!)
if your wife, does she care if it's super luxurious?
if your wife and no to above, you don't need to spend $90k.
That's why I pressed on the GLE350. Perfect vehicle for the need. To be honest, driving an X5 as daily, I really don't see why all the negative comments. Sure it's not a performance SUV but it serves well for other needs.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
The sixes (probably) rev smoother and don't vibrate as much at idle.
No doubt, and it just overall elevates the whole feel of the car

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That's why I pressed on the GLE350. Perfect vehicle for the need. To be honest, driving an X5 as daily, I really don't see why all the negative comments. Sure it's not a performance SUV but it serves well for other needs.
X5 is an awesome daily, who is giving negative comments?
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 11:55 AM
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X5 is an awesome daily, who is giving negative comments?
negative comments were about the GLE350 and why someone has to get a 6 or 8 cylinder and pay tens of thousands more. makes no sense to get groceries.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
negative comments were about the GLE350 and why someone has to get a 6 or 8 cylinder and pay tens of thousands more. makes no sense to get groceries.
It depends on what kind of feel you want. Its a luxury vehicle, if someone doesn't care about how well the car drives when going to get groceries they should just buy a Toyota or a Ford.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It depends on what kind of feel you want. Its a luxury vehicle, if someone doesn't care about how well the car drives when going to get groceries they should just buy a Toyota or a Ford.
Totally agree.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It depends on what kind of feel you want. Its a luxury vehicle, if someone doesn't care about how well the car drives when going to get groceries they should just buy a Toyota or a Ford.
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Voice controls get better as you use them, just out of the box they never work as well as they will after a month or so.
I totally agree with your answer. And those that buy brand name cars for groceries and alike reasons buy for a different reason.
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Totally agree.
Really? Have you driven the GLE350... to get groceries on a daily basis?
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1111GS
I totally agree with your answer. And those that buy brand name cars for groceries and alike reasons buy for a different reason.

Really? Have you driven the GLE350... to get groceries on a daily basis?
It's not worth what they ask for IMO if you are a car person and for a car in simple/normal use for someone who is not a car guy/gal it's just a pointlessly expensive badge engineered car.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
It depends on what kind of feel you want. Its a luxury vehicle, if someone doesn't care about how well the car drives when going to get groceries they should just buy a Toyota or a Ford.
that makes no sense at all. the gle, regardless of engine, brings a refinement of ride, design, materials, etc. that no toyota or ford does.

my brother-in-law just got his second GLC 300d (uk, so diesel). yup, a 'puny' 4 cylinder diesel no less. guess what, it's extremely refined, plenty fast enough for him or anyone really, and doesn't sound 'bad' at all.

sure the 6s and 8s have more grunt, less or better noises, but if quiet and loads of power is desired, then those 6s and 8s don't cut it compared to an EV.

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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 02:51 PM
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but then again, i see CR rated the 2022 GLE as the LEAST RELIABLE CAR!

https://www.consumerreports.org/car-...s-a2967595976/
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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I think the feeling is mutual. Can we all agree that most “non car person” doesn’t really care about a “car person” opinion? But a “car person” always bring a bag of opinions and “I know it all” mentality.

Most “non car person” owns the car that most “ car person” wishes they have.

Crazy I know. Both have 24 hours a day but with different mindset.

Carry on…..
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that makes no sense at all. the gle, regardless of engine, brings a refinement of ride, design, materials, etc. that no toyota or ford does.
Have you driven them? The 4 cyl is coarse and unrefined, lurchy in power delivery. Seriously, I would buy a well spec'ed Highlander any day of the week over one.

my brother-in-law just got his second GLC 300d (uk, so diesel). yup, a 'puny' 4 cylinder diesel no less. guess what, it's extremely refined, plenty fast enough for him or anyone really, and doesn't sound 'bad' at all.
Thats a completely different engine. The GLC300 I had as a loaner felt fine, but both the E350 I had as a loaner and the GLC350 I drove the powerplant felt terrible. My issue is not the concept of a 4 cyl, its that particular one in that particular application.

Remember I said the E350 I had as a loaner didn't strike me as any better than the Kia K5 rental I had.

sure the 6s and 8s have more grunt, less or better noises, but if quiet and loads of power is desired, then those 6s and 8s don't cut it compared to an EV.
These vehicles don't come in an EV so thats a pointless statement.
I mean...if you have driven an GLE350 and a GLE450 and want to disagree with us fine, but I'm pretty sure you havent
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Originally Posted by FastTurtle
I think the feeling is mutual. Can we all agree that most “non car person” doesn’t really care about a “car person” opinion? But a “car person” always bring a bag of opinions and “I know it all” mentality.

Most “non car person” owns the car that most “ car person” wishes they have.

Crazy I know. Both have 24 hours a day but with different mindset.

Carry on…..
Except that we are all car people, as is the OP.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that makes no sense at all. the gle, regardless of engine, brings a refinement of ride, design, materials, etc. that no toyota or ford does.

my brother-in-law just got his second GLC 300d (uk, so diesel). yup, a 'puny' 4 cylinder diesel no less. guess what, it's extremely refined, plenty fast enough for him or anyone really, and doesn't sound 'bad' at all.

sure the 6s and 8s have more grunt, less or better noises, but if quiet and loads of power is desired, then those 6s and 8s don't cut it compared to an EV.
You can't be serious. I've worked on two of those (GLKs) and they are really nothing special, the bluetec engines are somewhat quiet for a diesel but still.... it's nothing remarkable as a car overall.

EVs even on the top end are well behind flagships for quality and overall ride refinement and noise. The EQS is a great example of the gap
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Is my statement above 100% not true?

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Except that we are all car people, as is the OP.
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Old Jun 14, 2022 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that makes no sense at all. the gle, regardless of engine, brings a refinement of ride, design, materials, etc. that no toyota or ford does.
This opinion is so true that it sounds like fact. And yes, I've driven it... a lot. But again I'm not a real car guy. Lol
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It's not worth what they ask for IMO if you are a car person and for a car in simple/normal use for someone who is not a car guy/gal it's just a pointlessly expensive badge engineered car.
Wait... but a 60-70K MDX is worth it? GLE350 starts at 56,150. A nice one sits around high 60s/low 70s.
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