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‘Is this what you are referring to?
https://youtu.be/X_wRIzFxrR4?si=96HdO6SB3di204vI
i wonder if my 1GR is like that design
https://youtu.be/X_wRIzFxrR4?si=96HdO6SB3di204vI
i wonder if my 1GR is like that design
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‘so there is a recall on this issue. The rubber piping gets changed to metal, the recall was in 2010. Design flaw for sure. These engines were not as durable or without design faults compared to their predecessor.
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The 2GR-FE 3.5L V6. I replaced mine preventatively with a revised part consisting of corrugated steel pipes (still a dumb design, but less likely to fail), which cost me about $400 for parts and labor. Tried to do it myself, but the fasteners were in a really bad spot and I didn't have the right tools. Unfortunately, some forum members weren't so lucky. When the hoses fail, they empty the contents of the oil pan onto the ground in less than 15 seconds.
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It wasn't a recall, it was a revised part. The dealer had no idea about it in 2012, and when I walked them through it, their quote to address it was about a grand--there was no open recall or service campaign. If there had been, it should have been covered regardless of warranty status. I was still covered under the extended warranty at the time, but it wasn't a "fix", just a "revision", so it wasn't covered. I bought the part for $120 and went elsewhere to have it installed.
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No, that appears to be at the top of the engine, around the head. And since the engine is mounted transversely, it would be on the side (passenger side as memory recalls) with the belts.
Mine was low on the engine and right behind the bumper, about a foot below the head covering the 1/3/5 cylinders. I think the part referenced in this campaign is this one. The part I replaced was this one.
Here's a video replacing the bad hose:
Mine was low on the engine and right behind the bumper, about a foot below the head covering the 1/3/5 cylinders. I think the part referenced in this campaign is this one. The part I replaced was this one.
Here's a video replacing the bad hose:
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My 5 series has a button to disable it, and it's persistent. One of the benefits of buying one made prior to March 2018. Cars made after that reset that setting each trip.
I've been on Ford forums for over 15 years. There was a lot of fear of this when the Ecoboost came out and there has always been the occasional post expressing the same fear. But the record has shown that the ecoboost does hold up just fine. They've been on the market for 14 years. The few common issues aren't related to displacement or boost.
This fear is based entirely on hypothetical expectations.
I've been on Ford forums for over 15 years. There was a lot of fear of this when the Ecoboost came out and there has always been the occasional post expressing the same fear. But the record has shown that the ecoboost does hold up just fine. They've been on the market for 14 years. The few common issues aren't related to displacement or boost.
This fear is based entirely on hypothetical expectations.
I wasn’t saying EB is junk, just that I personally would not buy one with over 100k, nor any FI engined vehicle with over 100k. That poster beats the shyyt out of his V8 Tundra towing, etc. with 15k oil changes, I just don’t think an EB could handle that kind of abuse at 230k without major issues. Turbos are going to go bad at some point, etc. They need fresh fresh oil and more tender care than a huge V8 that just loafs around on displacement.
I guess it doesn’t really matter, though. What percentage of high end pickups end up living a life like that? They’re jettisoned at 100k or sooner in lotttts of cases.
Still, I like the durability. I know my 5.7 can handle the same shyyyt that poster throws at his.
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Recently I’ve read about a lot of problems and failures with the 2.7 EB.
I wasn’t saying EB is junk, just that I personally would not buy one with over 100k, nor any FI engined vehicle with over 100k. That poster beats the shyyt out of his V8 Tundra towing, etc. with 15k oil changes, I just don’t think an EB could handle that kind of abuse at 230k without major issues. Turbos are going to go bad at some point, etc. They need fresh fresh oil and more tender care than a huge V8 that just loafs around on displacement.
I guess it doesn’t really matter, though. What percentage of high end pickups end up living a life like that? They’re jettisoned at 100k or sooner in lotttts of cases.
I wasn’t saying EB is junk, just that I personally would not buy one with over 100k, nor any FI engined vehicle with over 100k. That poster beats the shyyt out of his V8 Tundra towing, etc. with 15k oil changes, I just don’t think an EB could handle that kind of abuse at 230k without major issues. Turbos are going to go bad at some point, etc. They need fresh fresh oil and more tender care than a huge V8 that just loafs around on displacement.
I guess it doesn’t really matter, though. What percentage of high end pickups end up living a life like that? They’re jettisoned at 100k or sooner in lotttts of cases.
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Mercedes has had water-cooled alternators for 20 years. They're expensive, but they rarely fail. And it's not a new fluid, just one more item in the existing loop.
I don't recall you raising this much concern when Toyota decided the best place to route hot oil under pressure was outside the block through a pair of rubber hoses.
I don't recall you raising this much concern when Toyota decided the best place to route hot oil under pressure was outside the block through a pair of rubber hoses.
Water cooled alts are not a good example, they are hellaciously expensive when they leak or fail and they fail just as often as normal alternators since people don't change coolant on time. $350 alt vs $1650 really says it all
This is coming from someone who owns a water cooled alt or two....I know it will fail at some point but maybe I'll get lucky since so far I've only ever replaced these in BMW cars. Maybe Audi does it better
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