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Jun 25, 2022 | 11:06 AM
  #661  
Just get rid of that stupid azz hump that ruins the cargo area with the new Sequoyah bc of the hybrid, and drop the LX V6 into it. That thing is ridiculous if you look at the new gen vs old gen with all the seats down. Old one had soooo much more cargo space.
Jun 25, 2022 | 11:11 AM
  #662  
Quote: Just get rid of that stupid azz hump that ruins the cargo area with the new Sequoyah bc of the hybrid, and drop the LX V6 into it. That thing is ridiculous if you look at the new gen vs old gen with all the seats down. Old one had soooo much more cargo space.
Old one fits 8ft sheets like a van......it's unparalleled for it a wheel base what it can carry and do. A true one car solution to literally anything.
Jun 25, 2022 | 11:27 AM
  #663  
Quote: LC is way more subtle, I think many buyers like that.Though yes to me it's nuts to choose that over an LX, personally. Especially when they weren't far apart price-wise. Pretty sure Cruisers go for more than LXs in the used market and have for some time. There was one here a 2013 for $48k with 168,000 miles on it...it sold.
I'm not sure why one would want that though. As you mentioned, price difference is not that significant. Maybe it costs less to do oil change? I rarely see LC around here. I don't see as many LX as other large SUVs but they do show up here and there.
Quote: The Sequoia was about to be cancelled. But somehow Toyota USA convinced Toyota,Japan to keep the sequoia. Otherwise we would have a full land cruiser line up in North America like we did up until 2000. Sequoia probably won’t succeed.
Probably. Never have a feel for the Sequoia.
Jun 25, 2022 | 11:31 AM
  #664  
Quote: I'm not sure why one would want that though..
Because. The Land Cruiser is authentic. It has heritage. LX is just a Land Cruiser with lipstick. Gussied up


Quote: Just get rid of that stupid azz hump that ruins the cargo area with the new Sequoyah bc of the hybrid, and drop the LX V6 into it. That thing is ridiculous if you look at the new gen vs old gen with all the seats down. Old one had soooo much more cargo space.


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Jun 25, 2022 | 11:52 AM
  #665  
Quote: I'm not sure why one would want that though. As you mentioned, price difference is not that significant. Maybe it costs less to do oil change? I rarely see LC around here. I don't see as many LX as other large SUVs but they do show up here and there.
LC over LX? I don't get it either. Like I've said it's a rebadge but in a very, very good way. LX carries no shame nor does it need to. Pretty much same capability, the same ridiculous hell testing it went through, with $90,000-car Lexus goodies baked in. No brainer for me.... I would much rather have the higher end vehicle. LCs are nice inside but LX million times nicer. I get my oil changed at my tire shop lol when they rotate my tires. It's an easy truck to work on as well, as trucks should be. I wouldn't take this to the dealer for anything else other than AHC and transmission fluid change.
Jun 25, 2022 | 12:05 PM
  #666  
Quote: LC over LX? I don't get it either. Like I've said it's a rebadge but in a very, very good way..
Please Look, friend. not everyone wants a superficial badge on something that has extreme heritage. Land Cruiser is something really special. The Sequyeah is just an American Tundra SUV with an interior that is not as well put together
Jun 25, 2022 | 12:24 PM
  #667  
Did someone just say the LX interior is a million times nicer than a LC?
Jun 25, 2022 | 01:10 PM
  #668  
Quote: Because. The Land Cruiser is authentic. It has heritage. LX is just a Land Cruiser with lipstick. Gussied up
I wouldn't say so and can't see why it would cost that much compared to the one with "lipstick".
Quote: Did someone just say the LX interior is a million times nicer than a LC?
Maybe not a million times but sure significantly different. Even the new car smell is different between Toyota and Lexus.
Jun 25, 2022 | 01:23 PM
  #669  
Quote: I wouldn't say so and can't see why it would cost that much compared to the one with "lipstick".
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What you mean? The build quality…feature content are the same. One is badged a Lexus, but it really is a Toyota
Jun 25, 2022 | 01:34 PM
  #670  
Quote: Please Look, friend. not everyone wants a superficial badge on something that has extreme heritage. Land Cruiser is something really special. The Sequyeah is just an American Tundra SUV with an interior that is not as well put together
Yeah but LX is still a Land Cruiser, I’m not talking about Sequoyah. LX has an almost 30 year heritage. I like upscale brands. LCs go for more anyway on the used market, no way on Earth I would have chosen that.

Quote: Did someone just say the LX interior is a million times nicer than a LC?
I did. Unless you like fake wood, subpar (compared to LX) leather and trim, subpar sound system, a manual rear hatch, manual 3rd row seats, and/or looks which are subjective. A Cruiser is nice inside for sure but it’s no LX.
Jun 25, 2022 | 02:51 PM
  #671  
LX is better on the inside than any LC, that's why they cost more.....better materials and fit standards and much better paint.
Jun 25, 2022 | 03:29 PM
  #672  
Quote: LX is better on the inside than any LC, that's why they cost more.....better materials and fit standards and much better paint.
The paint quality easily matches that of my LS430 which had outstanding materials and finish. They’re identical colors so I see them together a lot. I have never paid too much attention to a Cruiser’s paint. I would hope and assume they’d have at least a good paint job. The lack of a power rear door is pretty ridiculous for $85,000 new though.
Jun 25, 2022 | 03:51 PM
  #673  
Quote: Yeah but LX is still a Land Cruiser, I’m not talking about Sequoyah. LX has an almost 30 year heritage. I like upscale brands. LCs go for more anyway on the used market, no way on Earth I would have chosen that.



I did. Unless you like fake wood, subpar (compared to LX) leather and trim, subpar sound system, a manual rear hatch, manual 3rd row seats, and/or looks which are subjective. A Cruiser is nice inside for sure but it’s no LX.
I am not sure which trim you've seen, the 2022 LC 300 Limited I've been in has automated folding 3rd row seats, motorized tail gate with memory. Interior material is not to the same level as the 2022 LX, but it's solid, plush with no squeaks and the controls are easier to use than the LX. A "million" times better just shows subjective bias that is all I'm calling out. The interior difference is no more than between a Camry and an ES, and there is no one saying they are million times apart.


Jun 25, 2022 | 04:48 PM
  #674  
Quote: The lack of a power rear door is pretty ridiculous for $85,000 new though.
The last gen Land Crusier DID have a power rear door.

Quote:


I did. Unless you like fake wood, subpar (compared to LX) leather and trim, subpar sound system, a manual rear hatch, manual 3rd row seats, and/or looks which are subjective. A Cruiser is nice inside for sure but it’s no LX.
‘Like I said. LX is a gussied up Land Cruiser

Quote: subpar (compared to LX) leather and trim,
the Land Cruiser has semi-aniline leather. Lexus LX you don’t get it standard
Jun 25, 2022 | 05:15 PM
  #675  
Quote: The paint quality easily matches that of my LS430 which had outstanding materials and finish. They’re identical colors so I see them together a lot. I have never paid too much attention to a Cruiser’s paint. I would hope and assume they’d have at least a good paint job. The lack of a power rear door is pretty ridiculous for $85,000 new though.
I've had your gen LX and a same gen LC in at the same time and also had a 100 series of each in at the same time as well. There is no question what car is better
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