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Old Jun 7, 2022 | 01:54 PM
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I learned that MB's standard Navi does not show speed limits.
Really? Are you sure? Because my car captures the speed limit and puts it on the speedometer
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
Really? Are you sure? Because my car captures the speed limit and puts it on the speedometer
Traffic sign recognition is included with the Driving Assistance Package, and is activated and disabled along with Distronic Distance Assist, since both leverage the cameras.

I'm guessing there are somewhere around zero dealer-ordered S classes in the US that are lacking the Driving Assistance Package. So in effect, the "standard" nav does identify speed limits.

I won't discount the possibility that there are a small handful of customer-ordered S classes that are truly base, with no options. But those people proactively chose that configuration.
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 02:16 PM
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You can actually independently use the sign recognition (which I have set to on) and the distronic speed assist (which sets speed based on changes in speed limit, which I have set to off), but you are correct on the packaging..
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by geko29
Yeah the Cup 2s and the even more aggressive Cup 2Rs are crazy sticky and wear out really fast. The 2Rs are so sticky they can ruin your paint, because they pick up all the little rocks on the road, and then throw them against the body later when you drive fast enough to dislodge them. 5-10k seems to be about normal wear for Cup 2s, 2Rs are anywhere from 1-3k.

I don't need anything near that extreme for my little oil burner.
Hell you don't even need the Cups to kill paint! The PSAS at 100+ shreds the wheel house paint if you don't put a PPF film over the exposed paint lol!
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That tech will eventually used against owners for more control or revenue......
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 03:58 PM
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That tech has been around for a decade already...
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That tech has been around for a decade already...
‘What tech?
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‘What tech?
The sign recognition tech
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The sign recognition tech
Oh. Yeah. Lost you there. I’m pretty sure it’s not camera recognition. It’s all GPS..at least for speed signs
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Oh. Yeah. Lost you there. I’m pretty sure it’s no camera recognition. It’s all GPS..at least for speed signs
No, it actually reads the sign and interprets it. It also reads ramp signs and suggested speed signs.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
No, it actually reads the sign and interprets it. It also reads ramp signs and suggested speed signs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwhtl-3WrAk
hmmm. Maybe for Mercedes. I don’t think the lower end models do that. My 4R definitely has no camera up front. I guess you could put tape over your cameras, and then you’d find out for sure

https://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/i...assist.189896/

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My parent’s RAV4 can read signs. My GS and Tundra cannot.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
hmmm. Maybe for Mercedes. I don’t think the lower end models do that. My 4R definitely has no camera up front. I guess you could put tape over your cameras, and then you’d find out for sure

https://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/i...assist.189896/
Thats how the Mercedes tech works, thats truckled down to other manufacturers and models but there are definitely multiple systems that read road signs.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
That tech has been around for a decade already...
Cars are going to be connected across the board like a phone, they will send all the metrics on you they can back home and to whoever the parent company sells it to just like the SM model that is so common now. The older cars were mostly standalone systems, the newer ones will not be able to use some features unless they have a datalink of some sort.....it will also pave the way perfectly for subscription based car "ownership" that can also be leveraged to increase .gov revenue by, for example, a $1 fee every time you speed. It will start there and just like income tax going from 1% from the very top earners to 30%+ for the lowest people on the chain, everything will creep up over time and people won't realize it since most won't look back.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Oh. Yeah. Lost you there. I’m pretty sure it’s not camera recognition. It’s all GPS..at least for speed signs
Newest stuff is all could based, his car is standalone and able to do it internally with the cameras.

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