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Old Mar 4, 2022 | 06:21 PM
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The corner Arco from us for 87:
Monday $4.32
Tuesday $4.39
Wednesday $4.45
Thursday $4.55
Friday $4.89

The big Costco last night with 8 rows of 3 pumps was lined up about 12-15 cars deep for each row. The Costco I saw today I could not count how many cars were lined up. Their 87 was $4.49 listed on Gas Buddy.

How is it in your parts?


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Originally Posted by mmarshall
How are gas prices where you are? I suspect maybe a little lower than in my area.
i'd rather focus on growing my business than obsessing on a few dollars per week more spent on gas so in answer to your question, i don't know (or care).

if i noticed it becoming too much of a hit on my wallet i might cut back some on something else.

complaining about it accomplishes nothing.

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Originally Posted by SW17LS
87 is still largely under $4 in MD...

Give it a few more days...especially in high-cost Montgomery County, which is comparable to Fairfax.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i'd rather focus on growing my business than obsessing on a few dollars per week more spent on gas so in answer to your question, I don't know (or care).
Fine. It hasn't hit my wallet seriously yet, either. (grocery prices have actually had more wallet-draining effect recently...see my thread in Clubhouse on buying generic grocery-brands and saving money). But I'm not just thinking of myself.

if i noticed it becoming too much of a hit on my wallet i might cut back some on something else.
This time of year (Lent) many people cut back on some things anyway as a matter of tradition.

complaining about it accomplishes nothing.
Depends on the circumstances. Some states have a "Hot Line" to the Attorney General's office....if a particular gas station or business gets too many complaints about pump-prices, the AG's staff opens up an investigation. We sometimes see that after hurricanes and other events impact refinery output and create spot-shortages.
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Most the stations I drove past today were similar to these: 87 $5.20, 89 $5.35, 91 $5.55. Fortunate the one by the house was on the lower side. I was joking with the attendant on Tuesday if we'll hit $5 and he said no at most $.10 increase. I'm going to stop by middle next week when I suspect I'll need gas and tease him about $6.
Old Mar 4, 2022 | 09:34 PM
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I’m not looking forward to getting gas tomorrow. Costco’s premium fuel is fifty cents cheaper than the local gas stations, but Costco only has 10% ethanol in it instead pure gas. My LS430 and F-Pace seem to burn through it pretty quickly. I think the F-Pace is just really bad on gas though.
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I’m not looking forward to getting gas tomorrow. Costco’s premium fuel is fifty cents cheaper than the local gas stations, but Costco only has 10% ethanol in it instead pure gas. My LS430 and F-Pace seem to burn through it pretty quickly. I think the F-Pace is just really bad on gas though.

The ethanol itself in the E10 affects mileage some, given ethanol's lower energy-efficiency than gasoline. But, with only 10% the negative effect is relatively minor. Many gas stations are forced to handle the E10 because the EPA requires it in most places.
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The ethanol itself in the E10 affects mileage some, given ethanol's lower energy-efficiency than gasoline. But, with only 10% the negative effect is relatively minor. Many gas stations are forced to handle the E10 because the EPA requires it in most places.
It doesn’t seem too noticeable in other newer cars. The mileage difference was pretty big the first time I used ethanol gas from 7-11.

Most stations offer 87 with ethanol but the higher octanes are usually pure gas. It’s nice to have a lot of options here but I don’t think that’s the case in a majority of states from what I’ve heard. That would explain why many places only had E10 win I traveled to a few other states.
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It doesn’t seem too noticeable in other newer cars. The mileage difference was pretty big the first time I used ethanol gas from 7-11.

Most stations offer 87 with ethanol but the higher octanes are usually pure gas. It’s nice to have a lot of options here but I don’t think that’s the case in a majority of states from what I’ve heard. That would explain why many places only had E10 win I traveled to a few other states.

All else equal, Ethanol has higher octane and more ping-resistance than straight gas, so one would think that higher-octane gas is actually in less need of Ethanol than the 87-octane stuff.

Either way, alcohol is cleaner-burning than gas (one reason why the EPA requires it), and is less likely to cause deposit-buildups in the engine.

You can tell the difference in the flame. Pure alcohol burns with a very light blue, almost invisible flame, while gas has the typical bright orange flame and black smoke.
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It’s not just gas prices to fill up a vehicle. In the northeast, home heating oil is also through the roof and will definitely impact low to moderate income households.

I am not driving much, so the cost to fill up my tank does not concern me. Still, if I were in the market for a brand new vehicle, I probably would not consider a gas guzzler and may give more consideration to a BEV.


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Originally Posted by SW17LS
87 is still largely under $4 in MD...
Just a hair under in Towson yesterday. I paid $4.19 for premium.

Not that I have the money for one, but the NX plus would be great for my commute (30 miles each way). Every 6 months or so they install more chargers in the corporate complex where I work. It's nice to see that they're getting used, despite the fact that many offices are still shuttered.
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Unlike a deck, or a swimming pool, or an additional room, Solar not only adds value to your property, but actually pays for itself. Plus you don't get any tax incentives for a deck or a pool. I bet if he remodeled his kitchen you would think that was an OK addition and expense
Maybe where you are it pays for itself, not around me. It would cost me $40k for a system here and I pay about $150-$200 a month in electric costs. Now with my EV it probably adds another $80 a month. Do the math and the payback period is way too long to be worth it and that doesn’t include any financing costs. The last person that came over showed me the minimal savings and I had to ask him, would you do this? Pretty easy answer. As a result, it doesn’t add much value to the houses here and most people lease the panels which is even worse.
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
i'd rather focus on growing my business than obsessing on a few dollars per week more spent on gas so in answer to your question, i don't know (or care).

if i noticed it becoming too much of a hit on my wallet i might cut back some on something else.

complaining about it accomplishes nothing.
Agreed. "Lead with revenue"

BUT, most people who have incomes that are fixed aren't in that position.

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Just a hair under in Towson yesterday. I paid $4.19 for premium.

Not that I have the money for one, but the NX plus would be great for my commute (30 miles each way). Every 6 months or so they install more chargers in the corporate complex where I work. It's nice to see that they're getting used, despite the fact that many offices are still shuttered.
I've been paying WELL into the $4 range for premium for a while. Its about $4.80 here. Spread from regular to premium has been .80-$1.00.
Old Mar 5, 2022 | 07:54 AM
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Gas is only one of commodities that is going up, metals just went up another 15%, and will continue to go up seeing how Russia is was a major supplier. Grains are going up 75%, countries are hoarding grains and banning exports. Supply lines of pretty much everything will experience even more disruptions, and everything will go up.
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My heart goes out to those that are really struggling with the increase of gas prices A certain portion of the population will be significantly affected. Sad.



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