Theyre selling incredibly well. It takes time for a new vehicle to be seen out running around on the roads. I see one a week pretty much now.

As we have discussed here at length the Cybertruck is not a competitor to full size trucks for full size truck buyers.

 

because you've only seen 1? first off they're still not being made in huge numbers. second they're not 'generally' available, as they're being sold to deposit holders presumably in the order people signed up and still want one. let's see in a year.

not sure if they're selling 'incredibly well' but they certainly have a massive backlog of potential orders to fill and i've no doubt tesla is improving build quality and efficiency all the time.

just because they are not the same in design/function, do you believe there are no 'traditional' truck sales that will be lost to cybertruck? i believe there will be lots of sales lost to cybertruck, for the millions of people who don't really need a pickup truck anyway, but wanted one, and now want a cybertruck.

just like the fake rugged look on many cuv/suv's, a huge percentage of trucks are bought for image, and not function.

 

swajames - i take it your 'VOTE NO' avatar is about musk compensation?

 

The ones running around and being delivered now have been sold for a long time/

They are selling way above MSRP on used lots because people who are taking deliveries are flipping them.

Point is, there is no slow sales issue as mmarshall suggests

Not really no, I think people who might have bought a truck with no need for a truck might buy a Cybertruck, maybe, but no real pickup buyers of note are going to buy a Cybertruck. You won't see any impact in the sales performance of pickups because of the Cybertruck.

 

I'm sure Musk isn't happy about that!

"For Cybertruck Only: You understand and acknowledge that the Cybertruck will first be released in limited quantity. You agree that you will not sell or otherwise attempt to sell the Vehicle within the first year following your Vehicle’s delivery date. Notwithstanding the foregoing, if you must sell the Vehicle within the first year following its delivery date for any unforeseen reason, and Tesla agrees that your reason warrants an exception to its no reseller policy, you agree to notify Tesla in writing and give Tesla reasonable time to purchase the Vehicle from you at its sole discretion and at the purchase price listed on your Final Price Sheet less $0.25/mile driven, reasonable wear and tear, and the cost to repair the Vehicle to Tesla’s Used Vehicle Cosmetic and Mechanical Standards. If Tesla declines to purchase your Vehicle, you may then resell your Vehicle to a third party only after receiving written consent from Tesla. You agree that in the event you breach this provision, or Tesla has reasonable belief that you are about to breach this provision, Tesla may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand liquidated damages from you in the amount of $50,000 or the value received as consideration for the sale or transfer, whichever is greater. Tesla may also refuse to sell you any future vehicles."

LINK

 

So my cybertruck purchase contract has that resale limitation, and I can tell you with absolute certainty that the resale clause was NOT in the version presented to me for electronic signature, but that it IS in the version now stored in the my documents section of Tesla account.

I’m not alone in this either, others have reported the same thing.

 

with your vitriol toward musk and this clause, i somehow don't see you buying a cyberf-ck.

 

Well the no resale clause is of academic interest only, as I’ve never bought a vehicle intending to flip it and this one would be no different. I do have a confirmed order, I have paid the extra order fee.

The three reasons I may not get one are:

my wife is absolutely refusing to allow one on our driveway as things stand, entirely based on its design.

The version I ordered doesn’t do anything markedly better than my lightning, and in some/many respects is behind

and mostly because I actually like my lightning more now than I did when I got it nearly 2 years ago.

I actually reserved the cybertruck before I reserved a lighting. It just so happened that ford got to market well before Tesla were able to get to market.

as for my disdain towards Musk, you don’t get to live the life I lead and to be able to buy the things I buy (most of which I don’t reveal on CL, but let’s just say that I type this from our place at Lake Tahoe) by being a fool. And I’m not.

And it would be foolish to buy or not buy for that reason.

What is foolish is to suddenly champion musk, as many are, basically because the more he reveals about what a despicable person he is, the more it validates other people’s own despicable opinions.

whether that describes anyone here, well who’s to say.

 

What exactly is a "real pickup buyer", vs. the opposite?

Both types of customers buy a truck for whatever reason. So why is one considered real? Because they use it to haul and tow ? Is that the definition of a real buyer?

I think that even if you don't use something for all it's functions, you're still a "real" buyer. Just a different buyer, thats all

 

People who buy trucks to use their capability and not just for the concept of having a truck.

For instance if I were to buy a truck it would be total vanity, I have no need for any of its capability whatsoever. My business partner however uses his trucks capability all the time.

Thats fascinating! Wow.

These clauses can’t be enforced, legally they’re not going to hold up in court. You have the right to do with your property as you see fit. Plus the negative PR for Tesla if they were to go after all the people doing this would be huge. Not that Elon would care lol

Oh and I can’t agree with your other post more!

 

just curious, are you a 'real s-class' customer? if so, why? not that it matters, i'm sure you are!!!!

we often have this "true" or "real" something on here from many posters... generally nonsense.

 

The question you should ask is am I a real "flagship luxury sedan" customer. From a utility standpoint, no. I don't use the space. But, while the space is there the other selling propositions of a car like this, the ride quality, the prestige and status, the comfort, the quality of the finishes, the technology yes I do use and value all of those things.

Its like if somebody bought an S Class and they didn't care about ride quality, and didn't want their car to draw any attention. That would be a buyer who isn't a real flagship sedan customer.

A buyer who buys a 1/2 ton truck but never needs to tow, never needs to carry anything in the bed, never takes it anywhere but a road and doesn't need it for any practical purpose would be the same kind of consumer. Might that customer buy a Cybertruck? Maybe.

Just ask people you know that have 1/2 ton trucks if they would trade their truck for a Cybertruck.

 

So many great posts.

What is a "real buyer" of the Cyber Truck, THAT is the question. Lol

"To be or not to be, that is the question..." Lol

 

No and nor would I want the attention 👀 that comes with it

 

1. Towing - never is a strong word... does not need to tow for long distances is a thing.
2. Never needs to carry anything in bed - why would you not carry things in Cybertruck bed? For most people, Cybertruck bed will be very useful with factory electric tonneau cover. It is more useful bad than most pickups.
3. As to the never takes it anywhere, Cybertruck is way more capable than your average pickup truck for going anywhere. It has insane off road skills from factory.
4. Does not need it for practical purpose - it is a very practical truck. Just not for long haul towing.

Literally as long as price is fine, Cybertruck is great truck, you just cant tow with it for more than 100 miles.

Also it is not a work truck. So you if you are dropping pallets in it every day, you will use some cheap pickup with no options, not your premium $100k vehicle.
Just like you will drive uber with your Camry and not use S class for uber.