I'd say that anyone who has purchased or leased four or five different Corollas or Camrys over the years (as a number have done) is an enthusiast. That is the very definition of loyalty.

 

I’m pretty active on the Tundra forums. Some of you would be surprised at the number of people there that come from the big 3 and get tired of the quality issues, so they get a Tundra.

 

Tundras, although not the most unreliable trucks by any means, aren't free from quality issues. They have had problems with flimsy plastic interior/exterior trim parts and with the integrity of the C-Channel frames.

 

tired of quality issues, so go a truck thats a decade in the past with horrible mileage? Sure I guess. Whats laughable is paying that price (that you dont get big discounts from) for a 10 year old design

 

Truthfully, seeing as how Toyota now owns part of Mazda and how closely linked these two companies are recently, and with the recent news that Mazda is planning to go upscale, I feel like Toyota is treating Mazda almost like an experimental arm of Lexus where their more adventurous designs will be tested under the Mazda umbrella.

Perhaps : new Mazda 6 = New Lexus IS where the Mazda 6 will be more bold in external lines while the Lexus version will be more conservative.

Mazda quality and reliability, already good, should improve up to Lexus standards seeing as how Mazda and Toyota will be sharing some factories in the near future. My next sports sedan purchase to replace my GS might well be a Mazda 6.

 

The Supra is a BMW…

Just because someone buys the same car over and over again doesn’t make them an enthusiast. To most people cars are just appliances, and they buy what they know and are satisfied with.

I buy many things the same over and over again. Clothes…I tend to buy the same brand pants and polo shirts and shorts and dress shirts and shoes etc, but I’m not enthusiastic about those things. I simply am happy with them and it’s not worth the energy to me to explore other options.

For instance one of my agents always bought an Accord every 5 years. He is in no way shape or form an enthusiast. Doesn’t care at all about cars.

 

Agree. I know I live in truck-heavy country but Tunrdas are EVERYWHERE. (All Toyota trucks are)

They are absolutely everywhere. If you told me they didn't sell as well as domestics and I wasn't a car person and knew no numbers I wouldn't believe it.

All due respect but Car and Driver got a 14MPG average with your truck on a 40k long term test, that's with that hybrid assist stuff that I would never want. That is no better mileage than a Tundra. I can't find the link but I am absolutely certain of that number. They specifically called it out, that the hybrid thing was junk and they ended up getting crap MPG anyway. They enjoyed the V8, though. Don't know how anyone couldn't/wouldn't enjoy an American large-displacement V8.

 

This shows just how important reliability is and why Toyota has a dedicated following, especially for those who use their pickups on the job, or off-road, where breakdowns are unacceptable. In spite of the low mileage and old design, Tundras are still sought after!

 

I mean...as many issues as I had with my Pacifica, I never would have gone to the previous gen Sienna...just too old. Not to mention the Big 3 trucks are actually pretty reliable

 

Huge development to the Tundra and am excited to see the good differentiation between the new technologies which brings the modern into decade, really looking forward in driving one

 

They are going to increase their sales by 4x, easily.

It is what it is.

 

Totally, people have been waiting a long time for this truck, its going to do fine

 

I'll drive one when they come out, for sure. And really hope I don't like it, because that switch will be expensive! Most likely I'll keep the current Tundra for at least 5 years, then make the switch. We just took a family camping trip this weekend in the Tundra and man, I love that thing.

 

Having a vehicle like that makes you want to go out and do things like your camping trip which is really great

 

For sure. This was on Saturday (we call it "furnace camping"):




Current Tundra is definitely old and due for replacement, but I absolutely love the 5.7 and the huge interior. New Tundra interior appears to be a HUGE step up, though. That would be my motivation for moving up.