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Take one! Do people charge them at work? There were slots for them in Los Angele in newer parking garages when we lived there in 2015 but EVs hardly, hardly were anything close to a dent of a % of ICE cars. That was 6 years ago, but still.
6 years ago! Lol. That is ancient history. California is EV capital. Your experience in CA is outdated.
The fine print in the article says they will buy a pure or Hybrid vehicle. Also, 70 per cent said they needed tax and/or automotive company incentives to make them change their mind and buy an EV.
That survey should have asked those Canadian respondents if they believe in fairy tales. Lots of wishful thinking.
I am excited for the Lexus EV. It is sure to be beautifully crafted. One (big) issue is they are 10 years behind Tesla. Tesla has billions of miles of AP data and millions of cars delivered. And growing!
Our Model 3, while not as jewel like as our Lexi for sure, is simply amazing. I will buy another.
I am excited for the Lexus EV. It is sure to be beautifully crafted. One (big) issue is they are 10 years behind Tesla. Tesla has billions of miles of AP data and millions of cars delivered. And growing!
Our Model 3, while not as jewel like as our Lexi for sure, is simply amazing. I will buy another.
Actually Toyota has been building electric motors for a long time for their hybrids, even before the Prius showed in the US. Also the Tesla motor was in the first RAV4 EV. Tesla is way ahead in battery tech and software, but I believe Toyota/Lexus will do fine and catch up quickly
Actually Toyota has been building electric motors for a long time for their hybrids, even before the Prius showed in the US. Also the Tesla motor was in the first RAV4 EV. Tesla is way ahead in battery tech and software, but I believe Toyota/Lexus will do fine and catch up quickly
Toyota is an incredible company. I wish them luck.
Having said that, all the "big guys" have failed miserably.
Look at Porsche/Audi. 100 years of incredible engineering. The gorgeous Taycan was touted to have a 500 mile range during development. It ended up with half that.
And every Taycan is being recalled.
I only hope Lexus does not plop an electric drivetrain in one of their cars and call it done. Design top notch tech from the ground up.
And hey, who has the charging network? No car company besides Tesla has even started, right?
Finally, look at results. The new Model S Plaid is the fastest production car ever. The $3M Veyron cannot keep up. Ferrari? McLaren? Porsche? Nope.
And the company is still in its infancy!
Wait for the Roadster 2 ! And the Model 2 release is looming... The SEMI... And the butt-ugly Cybertruk.
Everyone, including Toyota Lexus has a hard road to hoe.
Why do you think Toyota will advance faster than Tesla? So far the opposite is happening.
No, I actually don't think that. At this point Tesla is way ahead of the game over everyone. That doesn't mean Toyota, or any other car company can't do the same or better given some time. Eventually there will be a centralized universal charging infrastructure (the key), which I'm seeing being built today before my very eyes which will even the field. A few miles from my house they are building a massive charging station, that ironically used to be a gas station (Berryessa and Lundy Ave in San Jose). It will support any EV, including my Ioniq, which btw there is a charging station anywhere in the Bay area no more than 5 minutes away.
I like Tesla's, but I don't like their simplistic IKEA like interiors, nor their fit and finish. I do like the Ford Mustang Mach-E's interior, which is much more in line with most cars. I also find Tesla's to not be very comfortable, and their suspension to be a bit on the harsher side. On the other hand, I found the Ford Mach-E's interior and ride to be very comfortable. So at this point, I would probably pickup a Mach-E over a Tesla, although Tesla is technically ahead of Ford.
If Lexus comes out with an EV that has a distinctive Lexus look, Interior design, and the same driving comfort levels, unless it had a really bad range or was just priced ridiculously, I would pick the Lexus EV over the Tesla.
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Toyota is an incredible company. I wish them luck.
Having said that, all the "big guys" have failed miserably.
Look at Porsche/Audi. 100 years of incredible engineering. The gorgeous Taycan was touted to have a 500 mile range during development. It ended up with half that.
And every Taycan is being recalled.
I only hope Lexus does not plop an electric drivetrain in one of their cars and call it done. Design top notch tech from the ground up.
And hey, who has the charging network? No car company besides Tesla has even started, right?
Finally, look at results. The new Model S Plaid is the fastest production car ever. The $3M Veyron cannot keep up. Ferrari? McLaren? Porsche? Nope.
And the company is still in its infancy!
Wait for the Roadster 2 ! And the Model 2 release is looming... The SEMI... And the butt-ugly Cybertruk.
Everyone, including Toyota Lexus has a hard road to hoe.
I agree, other companies do have a long road ahead of them to even catch-up with Tesla. But it's not impossible is what I'm saying
I agree, other companies do have a long road ahead of them to even catch-up with Tesla. But it's not impossible is what I'm saying
Yeah, but if you take a decade or more to catch up, you've allowed a new competitor to the market to command the narrative on innovation for almost an entire generation of new car owners. That's already happened. When someone thinks of all-electric vehicles, the first company they think of is Tesla.
Inexcusable for Toyota to be where they are now. They commanded the electric narrative in the 2000s with hybrids cars like the Prius, but it appears they decided to just ride that pony for more than a decade, and they are now way behind.
Yeah, but if you take a decade or more to catch up, you've allowed a new competitor to the market to command the narrative on innovation for almost an entire generation of new car owners. That's already happened. When someone thinks of all-electric vehicles, the first company they think of is Tesla.
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Sort of true but sort of not true. While Tesla is where are, Porsche as well as Ford have caught up and created very commendable Tesla alternatives on their very first try. Porsche more specifically as they can command far more for their product than Tesla can. For, Ford the new Mustang is doing quite well on their very first try.
(Tesla’s are still good)
Inexcusable for Toyota to be where they are now. They commanded the electric narrative in the 2000s with hybrids cars like the Prius, but it appears they decided to just ride that pony for more than a decade, and they are now way behind
True, but more not so true. The US EV market is a measly 2%. And Tesla’s US market share is actually contracting. Nobody knows for sure which way the EV designs and cars will settle, so once that is figured Toyota comes to the market. Being an early adopter is not always a good thing.
Toyota is coming out with a new EV this year that just so happens to be right in the heart of the EV compact/midsize crossover segment. A segment which they dominate in sales, value, options with their RAV4. Partnered with Subaru makes this a very strong endeavour.
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of course that 'headline' is misleading. From the article:
As many as 70 per cent of Canadians plan to buy a new vehicle within the next decade, of which over three in five (62 per cent) intend to make their purchase in the next one-to-five years.
So that's 62% of 70%? Which is 43%.
And:
Of the 62 per cent of Canadians planning to buy a new vehicle in the next one-to-five years:
68 per cent are very likely or likely to purchase an EV, pure or hybrid
Including hybrids with no break out makes the headline pretty meaningless.
Originally Posted by LeX2K
Of course your response will be to mock Canadians.
Please knock off the personal judgments. I have nothing against 'Canadians'. You may or may not know i lived in toronto plus i have relatives in Canada.
Tesla has also failed miserably at many levels and it's still failing at delivering build quality, craftsmanship, luxury, comfort, elegance, reliability, etc.
Most of the reliability issues are things like trim falling off. Powertrain reliability has been good and consumer reports gives it a recommended. Tesla isn't a luxury for sure. It's a premium sport but not that luxurious. I usually just recommend Tesla's to people that want sport.
Most of the reliability issues are things like trim falling off. Powertrain reliability has been good and consumer reports gives it a recommended. Tesla isn't a luxury for sure. It's a premium sport but not that luxurious. I usually just recommend Tesla's to people that want sport.
Yeah, but if you take a decade or more to catch up, you've allowed a new competitor to the market to command the narrative on innovation for almost an entire generation of new car owners. That's already happened. When someone thinks of all-electric vehicles, the first company they think of is Tesla.
Inexcusable for Toyota to be where they are now. They commanded the electric narrative in the 2000s with hybrids cars like the Prius, but it appears they decided to just ride that pony for more than a decade, and they are now way behind.
I don't think they will take a decade, they have already been building EV motors for their hybrids for over 15 years. Even if it does take a decade, I don't really care, I would rather they did it right then rush it. Why hasn't Toyota/Lexus built EV's and releasing them in the market sooner? They know their customers. When they released the fully EV RAV4 in 2013, there really wasn't much adoption. Also as mentioned by @AJT123 , half the country does not have the proper charging infrastructure, and have no interest in EV's at this time. Toyota/Lexus knows its customers
