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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 04:36 PM
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we have the tech now that would make fast cars safer. There is no reason to speed, so there is no doubt that a car that is driving in a 40mph zone should be locked out by gps in those zones, then when the car hits the highway, the speed should unlock to go 55mph. Haven’t driven the yoke Tesla, only the 3….I can’t wait to try it out. (But I’m more interested in the Toyota yoke version) obviously

And TBH, I am rather surprised Tesla hasn’t come out with automatic lane changing for the signal indicators. Perhaps it’s on the way.
Automatic lane changing has been there for a couple years now. FSD had this capability in 2019 available on all cars.

I don't think anyone wants governed speed. Majority Consumers don't want it as they would lose choice. Police don't want it as they would lose revenue. Manufacturers don't want it as performance sells. Doubt it will happen.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
we have the tech now that would make fast cars safer. There is no reason to speed, so there is no doubt that a car that is driving in a 40mph zone should be locked out by gps in those zones, then when the car hits the highway, the speed should unlock to go 55mph. Haven’t driven the yoke Tesla, only the 3….I can’t wait to try it out. (But I’m more interested in the Toyota yoke version) obviously

And TBH, I am rather surprised Tesla hasn’t come out with automatic lane changing for the signal indicators. Perhaps it’s on the way.
The discussion of speed governing is totally off topic and has nothing to do with what it we’re talking about.

And the car does have automatic lane changing.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 05:06 PM
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Besides the yoke, another controversial design is the use of the screen to put the car in drive or reverse. To me this is stranger and less intuitive than the yoke but the yoke is what you use every second you drive the car. Using the screen to put the car in drive or reverse is strange. What makes it somewhat awkward is that to go forward you swipe up and for reverse you swipe down. This all makes sense except for the fact that your brain has been trained the opposite and people are used to pushing typical gear selectors forward to go in reverse and pulling a gear selector backwards to go forward. It takes a little while to get used to it and I’m still getting there.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 05:09 PM
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Besides the yoke, another controversial design is the use of the screen to put the car in drive or reverse. To me this is stranger and less intuitive than the yoke but the yoke is what you use every second you drive the car. Using the screen to put the car in drive or reverse is strange. What makes it somewhat awkward is that to go forward you swipe up and for reverse you swipe down. This all makes sense except for the fact that your brain has been trained the opposite and people are used to pushing typical gear selectors forward to go in reverse and pulling a gear selector backwards to go forward. It takes a little while to get used to it and I’m still getting there.
‘Obviously I haven’t tried out the car. It it is interesting they do it on the screen. But you can just use the touch capacitor buttons?
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 05:13 PM
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‘Obviously I haven’t tried out the car. It it is interesting they do it on the screen. But you can just use the touch capacitor buttons?
The buttons are not that easy. You can’t see them at all and they are only there in case the screen doesn’t work. I’ve tried using them a couple times and it took a little while to get it to work. I was playing around with them today but couldn’t get those buttons to work so I just swiped.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 05:22 PM
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The buttons are not that easy..
‘That’s too bad. I am sure it would get better over time as new cars come out.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Besides the yoke, another controversial design is the use of the screen to put the car in drive or reverse. To me this is stranger and less intuitive than the yoke but the yoke is what you use every second you drive the car. Using the screen to put the car in drive or reverse is strange. What makes it somewhat awkward is that to go forward you swipe up and for reverse you swipe down. This all makes sense except for the fact that your brain has been trained the opposite and people are used to pushing typical gear selectors forward to go in reverse and pulling a gear selector backwards to go forward. It takes a little while to get used to it and I’m still getting there.
Agreed here too
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 08:16 PM
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He did, he was a hoot lol
i would not describe steve jobs as a hoot. did you read isaacson's biography? something beginning with 'a' and ending with 'hole' is more accurate, in his personal and professional life. he was an angry controlling narcissist. his passion for excellence and high quality is notable, but no doubt a nightmare to work with/for. jony ive was of like mind, so it worked.

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And the car does have automatic lane changing.
i believe only with the $12K FSD option.

about the yoke, my issue with the turn signals is they're not even buttons, just haptic areas on there.

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The buttons are not that easy. You can’t see them at all and they are only there in case the screen doesn’t work. I’ve tried using them a couple times and it took a little while to get it to work. I was playing around with them today but couldn’t get those buttons to work so I just swiped.
yup, in all reviews i've seen, those haptic shifting 'buttons' are completely unreliable.
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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 08:48 PM
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i would not describe steve jobs as a hoot. did you read isaacson's biography? something beginning with 'a' and ending with 'hole' is more accurate, in his personal and professional life. he was an angry controlling narcissist. his passion for excellence and high quality is notable, but no doubt a nightmare to work with/for. jony ive was of like mind, so it worked.
Ive read several biographies including that one. Both hoot, and a hole are both accurate lol

Most visionaries have many personal failings.
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Ive read several biographies including that one. Both hoot, and a hole are both accurate lol

Most visionaries have many personal failings.
One of my friends who worked for Apple at the time Jobs was alive told me you never wanted to find yourself in the same elevator with him. He told me he would randomly ask someone what they did, and if they hesitated or didn't answer to his his expectations, they could find themselves out of a job. On the other hand, he was a brilliant marketer. I'll give him that much
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One of my friends who worked for Apple at the time Jobs was alive told me you never wanted to find yourself in the same elevator with him. He told me he would randomly ask someone what they did, and if they hesitated or didn't answer to his his expectations, they could find themselves out of a job. On the other hand, he was a brilliant marketer. I'll give him that much
I have heard that too. People had no value to him, only what they could bring to what he was doing. He would famously fall out of interest with people too.
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Old Jan 16, 2022 | 09:16 AM
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One of my friends who worked for Apple at the time Jobs was alive told me you never wanted to find yourself in the same elevator with him. He told me he would randomly ask someone what they did, and if they hesitated or didn't answer to his his expectations, they could find themselves out of a job. On the other hand, he was a brilliant marketer. I'll give him that much
Yeah, those of us who know and have worked at the top Silicin Valley jobs know what tough people are at the top of these companies.
It has been said if you can make it in SEMI, you can make it anywhere. The execs play hardball. Cutthroat hardball business. I loved having a career here.
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Old Jan 23, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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Found out today, but the original model S, had a third row seat option. Learn something new every day. Was rear facing.
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Old Jan 23, 2022 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
One of my friends who worked for Apple at the time Jobs was alive told me you never wanted to find yourself in the same elevator with him. He told me he would randomly ask someone what they did, and if they hesitated or didn't answer to his his expectations, they could find themselves out of a job. On the other hand, he was a brilliant marketer. I'll give him that much
You also don't want to be in an elevator with him because he never took baths.


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Found out today, but the original model S, had a third row seat option. Learn something new every day. Was rear facing.
Yep, it did.
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