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Old May 11, 2022 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
The other real issue here is a truck in normal guise is a true single vehicle solution to ANY need. This removes the ability to have one, single car that can do literally anything you might need.

You yourself have backup ICE cars.....most are not like us with multiple cars with spares in some cases. A lot of people share 1 among 2-3 people
Ford still has the gas F-150s for those people. This is just another option that will appeal to people who want an around-town electric truck. I don't get the heartache about Ford putting this out there as an option. Don't want one? Don't buy it. Plenty of other people will. Options are good to have.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 01:33 PM
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Ford still has the gas F-150s for those people. This is just another option that will appeal to people who want an around-town electric truck. I don't get the heartache about Ford putting this out there as an option. Don't want one? Don't buy it. Plenty of other people will. Options are good to have.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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Its not like Ford needs huge incentives to sell this thing. They are practically sold out for the next 2 years. Sounds like EV sales will stall...due to lack of supply
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Old May 11, 2022 | 03:49 PM
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But I don't need those ICE cars, they are mostly parked. I could live 100 percent without an ICE. I only have them because 1) God forbid if one of us gets into an accident and the car is totalled, good luck buying another one and 2) My Sienna still has another 10 years in her. It would be a complete waste of money to replace a perfectly good useful car with a new one.

BTW F-150 Lightning does everything an F-150 ICE does. To the T. It just doesn't have a conventional engine. Watch the review I posted
No it doesn't. It can't tow. It can be used continually. It can't be used for distance. It is not compatible with aftermarket gear.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 03:52 PM
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No it doesn't. It can't tow. It can be used continually. It can't be used for distance..
IMO. The hybrid F150 is a superior choice. Makes far more sense.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 03:54 PM
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IMO. The hybrid F150 is a superior choice. Makes far more sense.
Yeah it is. I would never get a truck that throws away so much like this
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Old May 11, 2022 | 03:59 PM
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Yeah it is. I would never get a truck that throws away so much like this
Thing I do not like about hybrids. The added complexity for later in life…years 10-20 worry me.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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Is anybody surprised that certain people don't like this truck? Its pointless to even argue with them about it all it does is drag the thread down to another pro vs anti EV slugfest.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Thing I do not like about hybrids. The added complexity for later in life…years 10-20 worry me.
We're outliers. Average ownership is what, 9 or 10 years? Most people drive 10-12k miles a year, so it's not a big deal for most. They'll dump the car before any issues arise.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:08 PM
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My business partner has a deposit down on this to replace his Ram, I'm interested to see if he goes through with it. This is really perfect for his needs.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:13 PM
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Is anybody surprised that certain people don't like this truck? Its pointless to even argue with them about it all it does is drag the thread down to another pro vs anti EV slugfest.
You don’t keep your cars long. I do. I don’t want added complexity later in life. A hybrid 4Runner would have been a big turnoff for me and my latest purchase . More to go wrong later .(same goes for turbos) So that is how I see a Ford Hybrid truck. You also have inflationary issues when you add EV components, a Ford hybrid is how much more than a gas 150? The full BEV F150 is how much more?

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My business partner has a deposit down on this to replace his Ram, I'm interested to see if he goes through with it. This is really perfect for his needs.
I know someone who has a deposit on the F150 EV. He’s pretty exited

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We're outliers. Average ownership is what, 9 or 10 years? Most people drive 10-12k miles a year, so it's not a big deal for most. They'll dump the car before any issues arise.
True.

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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:18 PM
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You don’t keep your cars long. I do. I don’t want added complexity later in life. A hybrid 4Runner would have been a big turnoff for me and my latest purchase . More to go wrong later . So that is how I see a Ford Hybrid truck. You also have inflationary issues when you add EV components, a Ford hybrid is how much more than a gas 150? The full BEV F150 is how much more?
I wasn't talking about you. All the usual anti-EV suspects have chimed in that they don't like this...and that should surprise no one. They wont like ANY EV. Has nothing to do with complexity later in life.

If I were buying one, I would buy a gas one. Range isn't there for me for EV yet. For my partner though, he parks it in front of his garage so its easy for him to charge, and we have chargers at the office. He never travels in it, they travel in his wife's Palisade. Its perfect for him.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Striker223
No it doesn't. It can't tow. It can be used continually. It can't be used for distance. It is not compatible with aftermarket gear.
As @SW17LS mentioned, it's pointless to argue further on this because you seem to be continually denying reality (reality being it can tow up to 10,000 LBS) and it's not compatible with aftermarket gear, which is completely false because any aftermarket gear that works with the regular F-150 is compatible with the Lightning, which is mentioned in the review video I posted. So until you guys face reality, we should probably move on to other subjects we maybe can agree on
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AMIRZA786
As @SW17LS mentioned, it's pointless to argue further on this because you seem to be continually denying reality (reality being it can tow up to 10,000 LBS) and it's not compatible with aftermarket gear, which is completely false because any aftermarket gear that works with the regular F-150 is compatible with the Lightning, which is mentioned in the review video I posted. So until you guys face reality, we should probably move on to other subjects we maybe can agree on
Yeah you can tow all you want, but you're only getting 50 miles of range. That's what he meant by it.
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Old May 11, 2022 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
I wasn't talking about you. All the usual anti-EV suspects have chimed in that they don't like this...and that should surprise no one. They wont like ANY EV. Has nothing to do with complexity later in life.

If I were buying one, I would buy a gas one. Range isn't there for me for EV yet. For my partner though, he parks it in front of his garage so its easy for him to charge, and we have chargers at the office. He never travels in it, they travel in his wife's Palisade. Its perfect for him.
You already know what it would take for me to like one. I do not want to regress in lifestyle or ownership rights or capability. I'm more than happy to wait till this is possible and other people can play around with beta products.


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