Go look at the GM 3.0 inline six diesel in the Escalade, GMC Yukon, 1500 & Chevrolet Tahoe/Suburban & 1500. You can stand next to the front & not be able to tell it’s a diesel. There is zero smell.

No one is comparing HD trucks either. Toyota doesn’t make a HD truck or a diesel. The 1500 class diesels are not $10,000 extra.

 

Read up on the DEF stuff and particle filters. There are tanks, hoses, fill ups…then the particle filters have sensors and calibration. Gets exhausting when they start to fail.
not much of smell. But my brother has diesel 3 series. You can definitely hear the clatter. But it’s not terrible.

 

Tell that to my lemon law attorney Ford dropped their F-150 3.0 diesel & Ram’s VM Motori 3.0 diesel is pure garbage. That’s why I don’t own one anymore. The emission systems break, they malfunction quite often & sometimes catch fire. The diesel particulate filters commonly plug up prior to 100,000 & cost THOUSANDS to replace. The Toyota diesels that are not available in the USA are like gold. I like the GM 3.0 diesel, but it hasn’t been out long enough to know the problem areas yet. I drove one & it will smoke the rear tires & it’s unbelievably quiet. There is a shop in San Antonio called Diesel Toys & he puts in actual Toyota Diesel engines into Tacomas, Tundras, Land Cruisers, etc. They are crazy expensive, but well made.

 

I agree. I managed a fleet of 450 vehicles for my County's roads and airports department. More than half of our vehicles were diesel, but we did not buy diesel pickups or cars for the reasons cited above.

Diesels have improved over the decades, and diesel fuel quality has improved in the last couple of years due to federal regulations. Still, compared side-to-side with their gasoline counterparts, I would only opt for the diesel engine if I needed the extra torque provided, such as for towing.

Regarding smell, I may be more sensitive than most, but I always know when I'm behind one, even the new ones, if I have my HVAC set to "fresh air." Diesel drivers may not notice the smell because the it's behind them, in their wake.

 

Thats one model. Thats not an issue with the technology of a diesel.

 

Oh yeah. If you can't delete it don't bother getting one unless you can write it off as an expense.

Fluid maintenance is also hell, there are armies of coolers and line that can all leak out or into each other (see oil cooler into coolant leaks for more terror), all of it needs serviced or acid buildup will kill it, and don't forget an oil change is 4-5 GALLONS of $50 a gallon oil.

 

It is. Sorry but they just don't work correctly long term with the sea of failure points that exist now.

 

Then why are all of these diesels running around Europe doing fine?

 

They do fine there because Europeans are willing to pay for the higher costs of maintenance and repair. And the cost of petrol is very expensive. In contrast, Americans love cheap petrol and cheap payments which is at odds with the most significant factor which is the higher up front costs to purchase….thus manufacturers generally do not make diesels for North America

 

Thanks for typing it for me. They also do not drive nearly are much as we do

 

Well, for one, the European fuel has more lubricity than American fuel, making Diesel engine longevity a little better in Europe. The emissions are also looked at differently as well as fuel tax. It’s opposite in Europe, than in America, making diesel much more economical.

https://rentar.com/europeans-drive-d...ont-americans/

 

diesel was so great in europe it was subject to large scale cheating. Huge stinker about diesel is it emits a lot more NOx than gasoline cars

 

The cheating was because of the American EPA. Diesel emits almost no carbon monoxide, much less carbon dioxide & it gets better mpg, which means you are burning less fuel to go the same distances. There should be a diesel option for the Tundra.

 

Much as been leaked already, but reveal is now scheduled for Sunday, 9/19

 

Excellent! I can't wait to see this fully revealed!