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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 04:13 PM
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Volkswagen unveiled the new 2022 Golf R with something everyone can agree is good: More power. Due out in 2021 as a 2022 model, it's one of two variants of the eighth-generation Golf (the other being the GTI) that will be sold in the United States.

Power for the latest Golf R comes from a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine turbocharged to 315 horsepower and 310 pound-feet of torque, increases of 27 and 15, respectively, over the outgoing model. Volkswagen points out the engine's maximum torque output is available over a broad range that stretches from 2,100 to 5,350 rpm.

While many carmakers are abandoning the manual transmission, the Golf R still offers enthusiasts a six-speed stick. Motorists who want two pedals can order a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic gearbox linked to steering wheel-mounted paddles at an extra cost. We learned sending the manual to the automotive ash heap wasn't an option in the United States, because about 40% of R and GTI buyers order their car with three pedals.

"We fought extremely hard to retain [the manual transmission]. There are other brands in the United States that are slowly but surely starting to phase the manuals out, but we pushed to keep it. It's important, it is a driver's car," Hein Schafer, the firm's senior vice president of production marketing and strategy, told Autoblog.

All-wheel drive -- a hallmark of the Golf R since the competition-bred Golf Rallye, its predecessor, arrived in 1989 -- again comes standard, but how the power reaches the wheels is different. The 4Motion system gains a torque vectoring function that juggles power between the rear wheels as-needed to make the R sharper and quicker around corners. It can notably send up to 100% of the engine's output to the wheel that's outside the bend.

Volkswagen quotes a 4.7-second sprint from zero to 60 mph, and a top speed of 155 mph. Going in a straight line isn't the R's claim to fame, though, so it also benefits from a variable-ratio steering rack, as well as suspension modifications that make the ride firmer and lower it by nearly an inch compared to the standard Golf.

Software is almost as important as hardware in the composition of the new R's character. Engineers developed what they refer to as a Vehicle Dynamics Manager (VDM) that runs the 4Motion system, the electronic differential locks, and the adaptive damping system, among other technologies, in a bid to achieve the best set-up for every situation. It can slow a wheel and keep understeer in check, for example.

Drivers can choose from seven driving profiles called Comfort, Sport, Race, Special, Drift, and Individual, respectively. Special sets up the car the way Volkswagen tuned it for testing on the Nürburgring, where it's up to 17 seconds quicker than its predecessor, while Drift -- you guessed it -- lets the Golf R go sideways.

Offered only as a four-door, like the eighth-generation Golf it's based on, the latest R retains the low-key appearance that characterizes its predecessors. Stylists added a subtle body kit that includes a roof-mounted spoiler, a blue piece of trim that runs across the front end and lights up as soon as the engine starts, a rear diffuser, chrome-plated exhaust tips, and a sprinkling of black trim. 19-inch wheels come standard.

Inside, the digital instrument cluster can display a long list of information about the car and its surroundings: navigation directions, turbo boost pressure, transmission oil temperature, front and rear torque distribution, plus horsepower and torque outputs. Carbon fiber-like trim on the dashboard, blue contrast stitching, and blue R logos on the front seatbacks further set the R apart from the Golf.

Volkswagen's new Golf R will arrive on American shores in late 2021 as a 2022 model, though pricing information hasn't been announced. For context, the last-generation R carried a base price of approximately $40,000. It will be joined by the eighth-generation GTI, which packs a 242-horsepower turbo four. We learned the Clubsport model unveiled in October 2020 won't be sold here, so nothing will fill the gap between the GTI and the R.

When it lands, it will come standard with a sunroof, stainless steel pedal caps, 30-color ambient lighting, touch-sensitive surfaces on the steering wheel, leather-upholstered sport seats for the front passengers, and a digital instrument cluster, among other features. Buyers will initially have three exterior paint colors named Lapiz Blue Metallic, Pure White, and Deep Black Pearl effect, respectively, to choose from, though we wouldn't be surprised if Volkswagen again expands the color palette with wilder hues a little bit later in the hatchback's production run.
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 04:24 PM
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Thank goodness this is not an EV. I really like the interior.
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 06:27 PM
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I always loved the Golf R. It continues to look classy vs too boy racerish. Interior and exterior look great. I almost got one but got the IS350 instead and always thought what if...
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 08:42 PM
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Love that this retains 6MT option!
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 10:06 PM
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Love the dash and interior. It's very modern and high-tech appearing. The bat wing headlights however look cartoonish and juvenile.
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Old Nov 3, 2020 | 10:55 PM
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Been waiting for the reveal for a while! Despite misgivings about the new center console layout, exterior styling, and cost-cutting vs. the Mk7.5, I'll probably pick one of these up to replace my IS F as I want more cargo hauling.

It'll be interesting to see how I feel about going downmarket, especially in terms of dealership experience. I've never owned a vehicle from a non-"luxury" marque.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 04:50 AM
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Have loved the GTIs since being a kid too young to drive. I was itching to buy one back in '16 (the R) and went with a used LS430. Likely saved 30k but lost out on a lot of driving fun! lol

p.s. saw a youtube where a guy got a GTI (last gen) for $1700 at an auction, pretty much was able to fix it for next to nothing (sometimes people ditch cars as soon as check engine lights up)....talk about bang for buck

p.p.s. spent a week with a '15 GTI rental in hotLanta and it simply has that fun factor baked in, that 95% of cars on the road today lack.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:29 AM
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probably one of the best hot hatches on the market today (and i'm not talking about just the R model). even the base models have that special sauce that makes it fun to drive.

i fondly recall owning a 2.slow MKIV golf with a manual and it was a hoot in stock form!
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 09:36 AM
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That interior is really well done. My Mazdaspeed3 was the best car I've owned but I always wanted one of these as well - VW just has a way with suspension tuning. Unfortunately the reliability worries always kept me away (typically electrical issues)
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interior is upto spec. Hot hatch power as well!
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 11:05 AM
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Looks great, always wanted a GTI.

I wonder if this generation R will be built in Europe or Mexico?
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Looks great, always wanted a GTI.

I wonder if this generation R will be built in Europe or Mexico?
U.S. GTI's are supposed to move production back to Germany with this Mk8 gen.
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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oh man, i love it...
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Old Nov 4, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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Nice interior, but IMO not as nice as the traditional red/black/white/gray plaid seats on high-performance Golfs.

I won't comment on the gauges until I see what kind of different set-ups the system allows one to program.

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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Maybe I'm just stuck too much in the past, but, to me, a GTR is simply not a GTR without red/white/gray/black plaid cloth seats and a true 3-pedal manual transmission.
GTI is what you are thinking of with traditional plaid seats

GT-R is Nissan
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