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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 09:25 AM
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I like some of the styling elements from the side - change in the slope of the roofline to be a bit more like RR, Ford Explorer, Aviator, Navigator (all of which are copying RR look IMO). I also like the headlights and the way the rear passenger window slopes up towards the roofline creating more of a tear-drop look. Interior looks great, especially the better integration of the screen into the dash. One thing I continue to dislike about all of the new Highlanders is the black rubber trim around the wheel well - even on the highest end package they have that there. Cheapens the look IMO and I was hoping they'd get rid of that in this minor facelift.

My mom is in the market and is 100% sold on getting another Highlander (currently has a 2002 that she bought brand new and has 180k trouble-free miles) so I may tell her to wait 6 months so she can consider this one.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 10:26 AM
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but 240hp in a big truck weighing 2 tons is just ridiculous any way you slice it.
If Toyota would not detune the gas part of the hybrid model, the new 2.5 hybrid model could easily top 315hp making the V6 redundant
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 11:15 AM
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The Hybrid V6 should be available in the RX to differentiate it from the HL so I'm not too worried but 240hp in a big truck weighing 2 tons is just ridiculous any way you slice it.
The Highlander isn't a big truck. Depends on the torque. CX-9 has 310 lb ft at 2000rpm even though it has "just" 250 hp on premium. It feels a lot more powerful and responsive than the V6 competitors I drove. Unless you're accelerating hard past 90 mph, low end torque is what we all use in normal driving.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
The Highlander isn't a big truck. ng.
Not even a truck
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by situman
The power also decreased by close to 70hp! They could have achieved the 34mpg with bigger batteries and direct injection on the V6 hybrid.
not really.... real life MPG wont be anything similar, but also consider costs - they can offer 300h at much lower costs than 450h.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
The Highlander isn't a big truck. Depends on the torque. CX-9 has 310 lb ft at 2000rpm even though it has "just" 250 hp on premium. It feels a lot more powerful and responsive than the V6 competitors I drove. Unless you're accelerating hard past 90 mph, low end torque is what we all use in normal driving.
I think the Highlander is a very good size SUV/CUV. I was helping my mom narrow down her list and it came down to the CX-9 and Highlander. There was a ton to like about the CX-9, especially interior fit & finish, but I wasn't overly impressed with the feel of the engine like you are/were. I thought the Highlander felt more powerful - specifically it felt a bit more smooth and effortless. Could just be my driving style and what I'm used to over the years.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:06 PM
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
If Toyota would not detune the gas part of the hybrid model, the new 2.5 hybrid model could easily top 315hp making the V6 redundant
True, but they didnt so that's that.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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It’s not a bad looking car. I noticed the steering wheel resembles the ones inside some of the newer Lexus’.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
The Highlander isn't a big truck. Depends on the torque. CX-9 has 310 lb ft at 2000rpm even though it has "just" 250 hp on premium. It feels a lot more powerful and responsive than the V6 competitors I drove. Unless you're accelerating hard past 90 mph, low end torque is what we all use in normal driving.
Well the RAv4 hybrid has 219hp and goes 0-60 in 7.5s. The Highlander is a much bigger vehicle, couple of hundred pounds heavier and less aerodynamic (presumably). I would wager it will go 0-60 closer to 9s.

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not really.... real life MPG wont be anything similar, but also consider costs - they can offer 300h at much lower costs than 450h.
Diminishing returns. The battery will drain faster and the anemic engine will have to work harder to move the big vehicle. Plus if the new RAV4 Hybrid is anything to go by, the engine will scream to high heaven when you want any acceleration out of it.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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Interesting that "Platinum" is its own trim level now, unlike before. When we bought ours, the Limited came in two versions, Limited, and Limited Platinum. I like the name better to simply be "Platinum".
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Interior is good.
not feeling it with such an odd array of asymmetric shapes, colors, textures, materials, etc.



i much prefer the pilot's symmetry, less busy design, and modern shifter.

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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:43 PM
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a plus is you can get 2nd row bench on higher trims now which you couldn't when i looked at one a few years back.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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The Pilot is abysmal quality inside though, and I hate the push button shifter.
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Old Apr 17, 2019 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
a plus is you can get 2nd row bench on higher trims now which you couldn't when i looked at one a few years back.
That started with the 2017 refresh as I recall. The bench became optional on Limited models, and they made the captain's chairs optional on the XLE.
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