2020 Highlander
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The numbers are solid for the GX and 4Runner. Cheap to produce, supply chains probably the strongest, and warranty costs at this point are basically low and accounted for after being on the market unchanged for the most part for a decade.
Now having said that, as a customer I feel like if your buying it in 2020 close to sticker, its quite a hard pill to swallow, if you do not use a GX or 4R as designed and capable. Lexus makes a solid CUV in the RX thats reliable, and class matching in terms of equipment.
Now having said that, as a customer I feel like if your buying it in 2020 close to sticker, its quite a hard pill to swallow, if you do not use a GX or 4R as designed and capable. Lexus makes a solid CUV in the RX thats reliable, and class matching in terms of equipment.
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Certain models like the 4Runner perhaps, but something like the Sequoia or the Land Cruiser, RX, LX, GX, Tundra, Tacoma should not be ignored. Their respective competitors are coming hot and heavy and surpassed what those models have to offer generations ago.
I wouldnt call the Highlander a big step. It is only now offering features that competitors have been offering years ago. Downsizing the Hybrid engine to improve fuel economy...like DUH! I really can't think of 3 things off of the top of my head that says the Highlander leapfrogs the competition.
I wouldnt call the Highlander a big step. It is only now offering features that competitors have been offering years ago. Downsizing the Hybrid engine to improve fuel economy...like DUH! I really can't think of 3 things off of the top of my head that says the Highlander leapfrogs the competition.
As to surpassing RX, GX, Tacoma "generations ago" then why are they selling so well? RX and Tacoma are best sellers in their class - beating all the competition easily, GX sells crazy good for what it is.
I mean if you are unhappy with every vehicle that largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world offers, is it possible that you are not their target market?
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Ok, but if someone isn't interested in the hybrid model, then this is true. The gas version Highlander breaks no ground and merely catches up (or gets close) to the newer class-leading competitors. Gas Highlander vs. Telluride/Palisade, I would not pick Highlander.
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Originally Posted by spwolf
urh, so what Highlander competitor has hybrid powertrain, let alone a good one and gets 35 mpg in AWD vehicle (Telluridegets 21 MPG?)?
As to surpassing RX, GX, Tacoma "generations ago" then why are they selling so well? RX and Tacoma are best sellers in their class - beating all the competition easily, GX sells crazy good for what it is.
I mean if you are unhappy with every vehicle that largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world offers, is it possible that you are not their target market?
As to surpassing RX, GX, Tacoma "generations ago" then why are they selling so well? RX and Tacoma are best sellers in their class - beating all the competition easily, GX sells crazy good for what it is.
I mean if you are unhappy with every vehicle that largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world offers, is it possible that you are not their target market?
The Highlander may be a better option for those who don't really use their third row as it's a little smaller.
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urh, so what Highlander competitor has hybrid powertrain, let alone a good one and gets 35 mpg in AWD vehicle (Telluridegets 21 MPG?)?
As to surpassing RX, GX, Tacoma "generations ago" then why are they selling so well? RX and Tacoma are best sellers in their class - beating all the competition easily, GX sells crazy good for what it is.
I mean if you are unhappy with every vehicle that largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world offers, is it possible that you are not their target market?
As to surpassing RX, GX, Tacoma "generations ago" then why are they selling so well? RX and Tacoma are best sellers in their class - beating all the competition easily, GX sells crazy good for what it is.
I mean if you are unhappy with every vehicle that largest and most profitable car manufacturer in the world offers, is it possible that you are not their target market?
MB and BMW outsells Lexus everywhere, so what's your point? Sales of all of Lexus' SUV lineup is down and only the UX gave it flat overall numbers. So no!
Their target market is anyone that buys a car or will buy a car. If I am spending my hard earned money, I get to have a voice. How big or profitable they are really only means 1 thing to me, that is they arent going out of business any time soon.
Last edited by situman; Jan 7, 2020 at 09:05 AM.
it's for driving to costco to fill up with large boxes of supplies, furniture, etc. 
The Highlander may be a better option for those who don't really use their third row as it's a little smaller.
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I`m planning a detailed stop by the local Toyota dealership. Saw they have alot of new ones in (no hybrids tho)
I have to admit, I`m trying to see if the interior acoustics are something that can beat the RX/GX. Right now the ole GX is the quietest of the two, if TGNA can beat that...who knows.
Tech/reliability is already there, soo TBD
I have to admit, I`m trying to see if the interior acoustics are something that can beat the RX/GX. Right now the ole GX is the quietest of the two, if TGNA can beat that...who knows.
Tech/reliability is already there, soo TBD
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Only person with some sort of "statistics" was Alex on Autos,
19 HiH: 71.5
GX 67
RX 69
Havent seen the 20 HiH so I`ll measure it on the open roads to see if the needle was moved. But again more statistics with AA full review I guess
19 HiH: 71.5
GX 67
RX 69
Havent seen the 20 HiH so I`ll measure it on the open roads to see if the needle was moved. But again more statistics with AA full review I guess
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However, also keep in mind a Highlander Platinum is $4000 more than a top of the line Telluride or Palisade. So if a buyer is set on the Highlander, the gas savings over the life of ownership may fund the extra cost for the Hybrid. But if the buyer is still cross-shopping brands, maybe not.