Not with the Lexus track record they can't.

 

The BMW I was just in doesn’t split screen it.

 

Huh?!

The vast majority of cars will be reliable to 50k.

 

The predicted reliability of the new BMW X7 is a 1/5 for Consumers Reports. Two model years on the market. X7 also has two recalls.

 

Doesn’t surprise me.

BTW my LS460 has an open recall right now. Sienna when I looked had 5. I wouldn’t keep the thing for more than 3-4 years.

 

What is the Predicted Reliability of the new Aviator?

 

Let me look

Update: 2 out of 5

 

The proof is in the sales. It’s easy to see that Lexus has lost the vast majority of its upper end business to competitors.

So, unless they are willing to just give up those buyers, a shakeup is required.

 

FWIW one of the recalls is probably for a software update for the rearview camera.

 

A V12 is truly needed.

 

many competitors probably can't beat how boring and ugly it is. but anyway, let's say you got the '14 RX in '15. that means you've put 44k on it in 4 years, or a whopping 11k a year (~211mi. a week). i would HOPE it would be reliable!

at this point you're just trolling, you know darned well lexus is NEVER coming out with a v12, nor is almost anyone else. besides mb, who else even offers one?

 

So, everyone on here complains that Lexus is not doing enough on the top end, so a suggestion is out for a V12....gets shot down! Not trolling at all. I don’t think the top end for Lexus is bad at all. But I would love to see what Lexus could do in the $200K+ category of cars (such as 12 cylinder Audi, Mercedes or BMW).....hell, the Lexus sedan flagship has no V8....but a Genesis flagship does....there is something seriously wrong. At least there once was a Lexus V10

 

Lexus doesn't have the name to compete with the bigs anymore in the top end. It's becoming a second tier luxury line like Acura and Infiniti.

 

I basically agree with Jill, and don't see it as a troll. It's true that V12s (and W12s, if you want to include the now-defunct VW Phaeton) are few and far between. But that is exactly the point that Jill is making....more are needed, especially from luxury automakers like Lexus. Not everyone is enthralled with smaller engines and turbos. IMO, despite the efficiency factor, turbos are more moving parts to wear out or fail, extra ductwork and hardware under the hood to clutter things up, more heat and pressure inside the engine, more stress on the engine oil (although today's synthetic oils are admittedly the best ever produced), and, in some cases, require careful start-up/shutdown techniques, although not as such as in the past. Most (but not necessarily all) of this is being done in the name of CAFE.....which comes from the government more than car buyers themselves. I've long-believed (and still do) that, for everyday driving, N/A V12s, V8s, and V6s are preferable to smaller engines with turbos. And that's exactly what were are seeing disappear from many vehicles.....larger N/A blocks. I wouldn't trade my N/A 3.6L GM V6 for any four-banger on the market., turbo or not...although, of course with some vehicles, you have no choice...4-banger turbos are both standard and optional, like the Lincoln Corsair, or it's a choice between a turbo-4 and twin-turbo V6, like some other Cadillac and Lincoln products.

 

About the LS...

I remain unconvinced that an LS that was more “true” to the heritage of the LS (soft, smooth, with a V8) than the LS500 would sell well. Everyone assumes the LS500 sales struggle is a result of its design. I’m not to sure.

I think Lexus messed up by keeping the LS460 for too long. It should have been an all new car back in 2013 or 2014, instead of a refresh. Many folks who had LS460 leases left the brand because they were ready for a new LS, which didn’t come until 2018. By the time the LS500 came out, those buyers had already moved on, mostly to the S Class I think. So I think an LS, soft and with a V8, would also be struggling like the current LS500.

And now I see Lexus making the same mistake with the GS and the IS too. Frustrating. But maybe this change in leadership will help before it becomes too late.