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Old Nov 26, 2019 | 01:39 PM
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the tundra pulling space shuttle Endeavor was memorable. Tesla's sure to pull something of its own, like the silver SpaceX starship
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
that was the lamest and most bogus PR stunt tesla has pulled.

Not sure if it was a stunt. Those Tesla powerplants have enough torque to tow a battleship.
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Once the "new kid in town" has worn off, it will flop. The full size pickup truck demographic won't be as starry-eyed with Musk and his products as the millennials and techo-geeks. If he wanted to get in the "truck" market, he should have jumped into the Tacoma/Ranger segment or even gone with some type of versatile Subaru Baja knockoff design.
I will again take that bet lol
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Though I won't get involved in bets or gambling, Bob04 may have a point....although I'm not sure it will be a flop in the sense he is using the term. Still, although a few will be converted, I don't see many traditional F-150/Silverado/Ram owners rushing out in droves to get their orders in. Most of the interest in the Cybertruck is likely to be with first-time, tech-minded, or younger buyers.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Though I won't get involved in bets or gambling, Bob04 may have a point....although I'm not sure it will be a flop in the sense he is using the term. Still, although a few will be converted, I don't see many traditional F-150/Silverado/Ram owners rushing out in droves to get their orders in. Most of the interest in the Cybertruck is likely to be with first-time, tech-minded, or younger buyers.
I doubt Cybertruck will flop like 5LS.
I suspect Cybertruck could even be a hit just like GM, Ford & Chrysler over the past few decades.

However, look at what Toyota did to GM, Ford and Chrysler? To the point where GM Ford Chrysler have now literally given up chasing Toyota's Camry, Corolla, RAV4 & Higlander etc.
For more than a decade, Lexus also ruled the luxury market as the biggest selling luxury marque; only the past so many years with staid products has Benz and Beamer been able to surpass Lexus luxury sales.
Toyota/Lexus have a formula, or they have a way about doing things that really sells.

The Americans and Europeans are very "quick" at getting products to the market.
The Japanese may be slow, but they seem to have a lot of natural "attention to detail" or meticulousness in their personality.
This is especially true of Tesla - they are very quick to get products onto the market, but they really lack attention to detail, and that's why a number of people have noted that it is more difficult for Tesla to take away sales from Lexus customers; Lexus buyers are after attention to detail, and that's not Tesla's strongest point.
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Nissan Titan and Honda Ridgeline sales to date 2019 each - about 28,000 units.

Cybertruck reservations in a few days - 200,000

If only 17% of reservations follow through during the course of a whole year, Cybertruck will outsell those two established models. Anyone really think they couldn't do that?

There's a far greater chance Tesla can't meet demand than produced units not selling.


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Originally Posted by EZZ
You can't scratch, dent,...... It's even bullet proof.....
I like these 3 points, esp. to prevent the battle wound from stupid people who can't park properly and ding your car

and if it's still bulletproof in production form, you don't even have to armorize it....(just break the glass instead).
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I hate to say this, but I am coming around on the Cybertruck. Still ugly and I hope the final version looks a lot more ‘normal’, but like options other than the big three and Toyota. At a minimum this thing is innovative and will hopefully drive the others to work harder. Case in point, GM seems to throw cr@p against the wall and hope it sticks. 500 mile range in regular driving has peaked my interest.
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Once the "new kid in town" has worn off, it will flop. The full size pickup truck demographic won't be as starry-eyed with Musk and his products as the millennials and techo-geeks. If he wanted to get in the "truck" market, he should have jumped into the Tacoma/Ranger segment or even gone with some type of versatile Subaru Baja knockoff design.
Agree 100%. There is a small segment of buyers who always want something different. The same that but the Hummers and got 14 mpg will buy this. After the initial rush of purchasers dies it will sell like the Model X and Model S. The S sales are down in the US -57% for the ten months of this year compared to same ten months last year. The Model X sales are down -29% for the same period. They are on course to sell less then 10,000 units combined this year. The top three selling models are all pickups. The Dodge Ram Chevy Silverado and the Ford F series. All Musk had to do is design an electric looking Ram and it would have been a success.
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This popped up on my LinkedIn feed, I have friends that aren't "truck" people showing interest in the CyberTruck. I see a lot of posts above about it being a flop etc...I guess time will tell. The buzz this has generated is exactly what they were hoping for imo. Once released this will be an attention grabber for sure.

$10.5 billion in pre-orders with $0 in ad spend. Tesla is disrupting more than the car market - it's disrupting the marketers.




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Originally Posted by plex
This popped up on my LinkedIn feed, I have friends that aren't "truck" people showing interest in the CyberTruck. I see a lot of posts above about it being a flop etc...I guess time will tell. The buzz this has generated is exactly what they were hoping for imo. Once released this will be an attention grabber for sure.





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In all fairness, they get free advertising from the mainstream media. Fits their agenda.
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Originally Posted by -J-P-L-
Nissan Titan and Honda Ridgeline sales to date 2019 each - about 28,000 units.

Cybertruck reservations in a few days - 200,000

If only 17% of reservations follow through during the course of a whole year, Cybertruck will outsell those two established models. Anyone really think they couldn't do that?

There's a far greater chance Tesla can't meet demand than produced units not selling.
units won’t begin shipping for at least 2 years. A lot can happen in that time. The $100 refundable deposit is such a small amount i’m not surprised there’s tons of deposits. But yes, those numbers are still impressive, but again, we’re a loooong way away from shipping. The Rivian truck may ship before then for example, and steal cybertruck sales. Heck an electric f-150 may ship before then.

Originally Posted by mbarron37
500 mile range in regular driving has peaked my interest.
That’s in the $70K version, (paint probably extra too ) - are you willing to pay $70K for a completely new vehicle?

Originally Posted by Freds430
The S sales are down in the US -57% for the ten months of this year compared to same ten months last year.
pricey sedan sales are down generally, and obviously the 3 stole a lot of S sales too.

The Model X sales are down -29% for the same period.
The X needs an upgrade, especially now the e-Tron is out and the EQC is about to ship.

All Musk had to do is design an electric looking Ram and it would have been a success.
Why do something that boring when you can go bigger?

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In all fairness, they get free advertising from the mainstream media. Fits their agenda.
Musk is the new Jobs. The events and tweets and PR moves are all marketing too and not all free at all. But certainly tesla has caught the attention of everyone and it’s now easy to get huge coverage but you still have to deliver. Tesla though is more than just vehicles... the gigafactories, the powerwalls, it’s utility scale storage (Australia project is vast), it’s the solar roof tiles, it’s pretty amazing.
Old Nov 27, 2019 | 06:29 AM
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I don’t have a problem putting down $70k if well built. I would not spend $70k on a GM piece of junk, I can tell you that. I am hoping Toyota/Lexus get moving on the redesigned large SUVs and Tundra. They are so slow to update anything and that is frustrating for me as a consumer. I am very intrigued by this Tesla and the price point is in line with other large SUVs and loaded pickups. Build quality and refinement would be a concern for me. I will take a wait and see attitude. Unfortunately, three years out for the $70k version.
Old Nov 27, 2019 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
units won’t begin shipping for at least 2 years. A lot can happen in that time. The $100 refundable deposit is such a small amount i’m not surprised there’s tons of deposits. But yes, those numbers are still impressive, but again, we’re a loooong way away from shipping. The Rivian truck may ship before then for example, and steal cybertruck sales. Heck an electric f-150 may ship before then.That’s in the $70K version, (paint probably extra too ) - are you willing to pay $70K for a completely new vehicle?pricey sedan sales are down generally, and obviously the 3 stole a lot of S sales too.The X needs an upgrade, especially now the e-Tron is out and the EQC is about to ship.Why do something that boring when you can go bigger? Musk is the new Jobs. The events and tweets and PR moves are all marketing too and not all free at all. But certainly tesla has caught the attention of everyone and it’s now easy to get huge coverage but you still have to deliver. Tesla though is more than just vehicles... the gigafactories, the powerwalls, it’s utility scale storage (Australia project is vast), it’s the solar roof tiles, it’s pretty amazing.
The shorts have used Model S and X to predict the fall of Tesla for many quarters and they are all eating crow right now. Elon basically said the Model S and X aren't even needed and are built for sentimental reasons. Sure they will build a Plaid version for giggles but the Model 3 and Y are the companies future (along with the Cybertruck??? Supposedly).

Tesla has fulfilled its mission statement if the big 3 all electrify early due to Tesla entering their market. This will drive infrastructure at a much higher pace than before and will spark the transition to EV even quicker. In the unveiling, Elon even said they cant transition to renewable energy as quickly without addressing the pickup market. He wasn't just alluding to the CyberTruck sales driving this change. He knew if Tesla entered the market, the change would occur more rapidly just by Tesla entering the market.

For those that argue the big 3 would have released an EV truck even without Tesla releasing a truck... that is compete BS. The rumblings of Tesla releasing an EV truck drove the big 3 to begin development of an EV truck. Far as Tesla is concerned, the mere existence of a CyberTruck is success to their mission statement.
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I agree completely that Tesla has been a huge catalyst in pushing the market forward.



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