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Old Nov 19, 2019 | 03:13 PM
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Default Hood strut vs manual prop debate

Gonna put this hood strut vs hood prop thing to the members here. (for the record) my 4Runner struts don't like to hold up in the cold, and my rear Matrix struts failed. Our LX ones are fine. Rear 4Runner struts are perfect.

Anyways, I was perusing a manual of a new car, it is a 2020 model. New design.

I have never ever seen a scheduled service to replace hood struts. To be done at 120,000km, then at 240,00km.

Absolutely astonishing!











And what heck is an air conditioning desiccant?

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My vote......hood-struts, hands-down, even if they fail after a while at extreme temperatures. Replacing them is usually a simple and relatively inexpensive operation (in fact, once or twice, in the past, I've done it myself). They tend to wear out more often in back, in hatchbacks/wagons, because the rear hatches, of course, are opened and shut far more often than the hood.

And there is a reason why I dislike manual prop-rods....it is not just laziness on my part. Especially in conjunction with heavy sheet-steel hoods (as opposed to lighter plastic or aluminum ones) they can be difficult for short persons, persons with physical injuries, or those who lack arm/shoulder strength. They can be accidentally knocked out of place, and/or the wind rattling the hood can vibrate them out of the holding-slot, causing the hood to come falling down on top of someone. In my book, a PITA. And I dislike them even more when I see them in 50-60K vehicles that already cost an arm and a leg.

Call it a rant if you want...but that's my $.02.

BTW, Jill......if you want, you post a peference-poll. Usually, only the OP can do that, although I'm not sure......moderators may (?) also be able to add one later.

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BTW, Jill......if you want, you post a peference-poll. Usually, only the OP can do that, although I'm not sure......moderators may (?) also be able to add one later.
Thanks. It does not really matter to me. I am just astonished at the replacement interval.

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My vote......hood-struts, hands-down, even if they fail after a while at extreme temperatures. Replacing them is usually a simple and relatively inexpensive operation (in fact, once or twice, in the past, I've done it myself). They tend to wear out more often in back, in hatchbacks/wagons, because the rear p
Your points are valid, but this vehicle has a "scheduled" maintenance replacement. Just absurd.

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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill

And what heck is an air conditioning desiccant?
Also known as a receiver/dryer or accumulator.

Prop rod is pathetic all cars should have hood lift support.
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Thanks. It does not really matter to me. I am just astonished at the replacement interval.

Your points are valid, but this vehicle has a "scheduled" maintenance replacement. Just absurd.

What that tells me is that Toyota might (?) have used cheaply-made struts that were more or less expected to weaken or fail over time. Some struts do....some don't, though the seals on the struts (which keep the fluid inside from leaking out and weakening the strut) are usually not expected to last the life of the vehicle. In back, of course, they get weakened from a lot of use from the hatch-lid, and, under the hood, from engine heat over time.

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Speaking of..... the struts on our LS just failed and the replacement from eBay came today.... Whopping $18... If I’m not too lazy, I’ll swap them tonight.
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What that tells me is that Toyota might (?) have used cheaply-made struts that were more or less expected to weaken or fail over time.
You assume that the manual I posted was a Toyota. It is not.
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You assume that the manual I posted was a Toyota. It is not.

OK...sorry if I misunderstood you. You had mentioned several Toyotas in your OP.

My comments, then, will apply to whatever manufacturer is involved.
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What is footnote 10 in your picture, Jill? Curious what it states.
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What is footnote 10 in your picture, Jill? Curious what it states.
I will have to go back and look
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I will have to go back and look
Thanks.

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Hands down I would take hood struts all day long. Plus I don’t keep my cars long enough for them to fail.
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Thanks.

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It is for every 10 years or 120,000km
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Hatch struts on my 29 year old wagon are original and still fine.
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Originally Posted by patgilm
Hands down I would take hood struts all day long. Plus I don’t keep my cars long enough for them to fail.
Fair enough. But a maintenance service? Really



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