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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 05:03 PM
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^^^Your experience, not of others therefore your opinions have to be weighted on the basis of the taint of the anecdotal ideology from your individual experience. Cadillac has everything to do with it. The ATS has easily been praised as a Bimmer 3 series competitor. What happened? Well GM cheaped out on interior material quality and Cadillac has a bad rap for quality control. Cadillac also has this weird "art and science" nonsense going on with weird square edgy styling which looks ridiculous. Where is Lexus' competitor to this Stinger?
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 07:16 PM
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I have learned from experience to be sceptical of anything that is so loudly hyped up. There is a tremendous amount of hype surrounding the Kia Stinger.

I believe that the Stinger was not built for mass-market buyers; it was built for auto critics and sporty driving enthusiasts. Kia built the Stinger to prove something to the auto critics.

It won't matter if the Stinger is accepted by buyers as a mass-market car or as a premium car, and it won't matter if it is a good car or a bad car, because it has already been graded as a success by the critics, most of whom seem to be gaga over it -- just look at how they are comparing it to BMW models. This car was built was not for buyers but for auto critics.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I have learned from experience to be sceptical of anything that is so loudly hyped up. There is a tremendous amount of hype surrounding the Kia Stinger.

I believe that the Stinger was not built for mass-market buyers; it was built for auto critics and sporty driving enthusiasts. Kia built the Stinger to prove something to the auto critics.

It won't matter if the Stinger is accepted by buyers as a mass-market car or as a premium car, and it won't matter if it is a good car or a bad car, because it has already been graded as a success by the critics, most of whom seem to be gaga over it -- just look at how they are comparing it to BMW models. This car was built was not for buyers but for auto critics.
Some very good points. Well said. The auto critics seem to want to brand anything Hyundai or KIA a #1 vehicle. The Genesis won a MT comparo over the new LS. I think it has to do with the low prices compared to the luxury brands that are priced higher.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
I believe that the Stinger was not built for mass-market buyers; it was built for auto critics and sporty driving enthusiasts. Kia built the Stinger to prove something to the auto critics.
I agree in part with your assessment. The Stinger was not built for mass-market buyers. KIA has mass market cars and crossovers. The Stinger is intended to change the perception of KIA by people who enjoy cars. Many of the critics have found faults with the Stinger for not being enough "hard core sport" and handling not suited for track use. I am really thrilled with the Stinger and it will be my next car so it attracts not only auto critica.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 08:18 PM
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the stinger is already a success with the awards, great reviews and the fact that we've spent 26 pages of posts so far discussing it.
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Old Feb 11, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the stinger is already a success with the awards, great reviews and the fact that we've spent 26 pages of posts so far discussing it.
Hey, this is Car Chat. We spend page after page discussing almost everything.
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Old Feb 14, 2018 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
the stinger is already a success with the awards, great reviews and the fact that we've spent 26 pages of posts so far discussing it.
+1 and here's another

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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 07:11 AM
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Is this for real? A Kia Stinger is faster than an M3 in a straight line :

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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 07:32 AM
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C&D has the Stinger GT at 4.4sec 0-60 and 10.6sec 0-100, and the M3 4.0 and 8.6. There might be other tests with different results.
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by LexBob2
C&D has the Stinger GT at 4.4sec 0-60 and 10.6sec 0-100, and the M3 4.0 and 8.6. There might be other tests with different results.
Who, though, would base their buying decision on a difference of 0.4 second 0-60 time?......especially considering all the variables that go into what those times actually are. Doesn't make much sense to me.
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Who, though, would base their buying decision on a difference of 0.4 second 0-60 time?......especially considering all the variables that go into what those times actually are. Doesn't make much sense to me.
I don't think they're BASING their buying decision on the 0-60 time, just maybe justifying it, LOL
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by bagwell
I don't think they're BASING their buying decision on the 0-60 time, just maybe justifying it, LOL
This is probably more like it. While these acceleration figures are just one measure, I'm sure they are used by a lot of potential buyers as they try to learn more about the vehicle they are considering.
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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Still, is that video of the Stinger GT smoking that M3 faked???

Or is Kia underrating their GTs?

Unless that was not a real M3....
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by natnut
Still, is that video of the Stinger GT smoking that M3 faked???

Or is Kia underrating their GTs?

Unless that was not a real M3....
must be an m3 badge swap
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Old Feb 16, 2018 | 10:47 AM
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Fake news In reality the m3 would smoke the stinger. It does the 1/4th in 12.2 at 120 mph while the stinger in low 13s at 107 mph. Thats a pretty freaking large performance difference.
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