Tempted by 2017 Pacifica Hybrid
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Tempted by 2017 Pacifica Hybrid
but I ran into this forum....... http://www.pacificaforums.com/forum/...al-discussion/
about 2 out of 3 thread topic is dealing with a serious problem. I'm no longer tempted.
about 2 out of 3 thread topic is dealing with a serious problem. I'm no longer tempted.
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I'm not sure what your intent is by opening the thread. 
Do you want our advice on the Pacifica? (this is, of course, a general-automotive forum, and we talk about all vehicles here, not just Lexus products).
If it will help any, I myself did a full-review on the non-hybrid Pacifica a year ago, back when it first debuted. One of our CL members is also comparing the Pacifica to the Odyssey for a possible purchase/lease.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-pacifica.html
Do you want our advice on the Pacifica? (this is, of course, a general-automotive forum, and we talk about all vehicles here, not just Lexus products).If it will help any, I myself did a full-review on the non-hybrid Pacifica a year ago, back when it first debuted. One of our CL members is also comparing the Pacifica to the Odyssey for a possible purchase/lease.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...-pacifica.html
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yeah, having worked for and owned several Chryslers I was tempted for about 3 seconds when I saw the commercial, then some bad memories of prior ownership of Chrysler products slapped me back into reality.
I am still an active member of several Mopar clubs and forums and nothing has really changed since Fiat took over, they still have major issues on all their vehicles and the dealerships still treat you like trash.
I am still an active member of several Mopar clubs and forums and nothing has really changed since Fiat took over, they still have major issues on all their vehicles and the dealerships still treat you like trash.
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When Ford introduced their first plug in hybrid (C-Max Energi), it quickly became the least reliable car ranked by Consumer Reports. Mostly electrical issues that made the car a big paperweight, so most of the fixes were FW related. I doubt Chrysler will do any better with the Pacifica Hybrid.
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I'm not sure if you meant the typo or not, but I corrected it for you. 
While I respect your opinion (and your view of the corporation), I don't think it's fair to say that those interested in a Chrysler product will necessarily "suffer" in their ownership. One of our CL moderators has a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and loves it. Steve (SW15LS), a respected member, has had two Grand Cherokees, and is currently quite interested in a Pacifica, cross-shopping one with an Odyssey. I'll admit, though, that IMO, today, the average Ford or Chrysler product, in general, is not built as well as the average Japanese, Korean, or GM-derived vehicle....though, of course, there are exceptions, such as Nissan and its French ownership. But, again, that doesn't mean that owners can't buy Ford/Chrysler products and be happy or satisfied with them.
While I respect your opinion (and your view of the corporation), I don't think it's fair to say that those interested in a Chrysler product will necessarily "suffer" in their ownership. One of our CL moderators has a Jeep Grand Cherokee, and loves it. Steve (SW15LS), a respected member, has had two Grand Cherokees, and is currently quite interested in a Pacifica, cross-shopping one with an Odyssey. I'll admit, though, that IMO, today, the average Ford or Chrysler product, in general, is not built as well as the average Japanese, Korean, or GM-derived vehicle....though, of course, there are exceptions, such as Nissan and its French ownership. But, again, that doesn't mean that owners can't buy Ford/Chrysler products and be happy or satisfied with them.
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when did you last work for a chrysler dealer?
about the pacifica hybrid thread... the OP's getting his car replaced, engineers can't reproduce the issue, and someone said it might be the charging system at the owner's place... not saying it's excusable, it needs to get fixed. but perhaps if the car was that bad Google wouldn't have bought 500 of them for driverless car testing.
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all their vehicles? really? must be why jeep is selling like hotcakes and people love 'em.
when did you last work for a chrysler dealer?
about the pacifica hybrid thread... the OP's getting his car replaced, engineers can't reproduce the issue, and someone said it might be the charging system at the owner's place... not saying it's excusable, it needs to get fixed. but perhaps if the car was that bad Google wouldn't have bought 500 of them for driverless car testing.
when did you last work for a chrysler dealer?
about the pacifica hybrid thread... the OP's getting his car replaced, engineers can't reproduce the issue, and someone said it might be the charging system at the owner's place... not saying it's excusable, it needs to get fixed. but perhaps if the car was that bad Google wouldn't have bought 500 of them for driverless car testing.
Just because a product "sells like hotcakes" doesn't mean a damn thing when it comes to quality issues, look at GM, they sell a butt load of cars and are usually ranked #1 or #2 in total car sales every year (where Chrysler sits around 5 or 6), yet they still have 72 active safety recalls on over 45 MILLION cars built since 2010.
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my last position with Chrysler was with Chrysler not a dealer and it was right at the beginning of the FCA takeover, and the Challenger, Charger, 300, 200, Grand Cherokee, Compass, Cherokee, Ram Trucks, Durango, etc. all suffer from quality issues still today, I still have contacts within Chrysler and at several dealerships and still attend Mopar events because I have a lot of friends from many years of engagement with the products, and the I still hear the same stories about issues and problems and dealership behavior.
From what I've heard about the warranty-issues, though, it's not so much the dealerships themselves that are the problem, but that the corporation itself just doesn't want to face its own warranty costs. I've had people at the dealership level tell me that they either do the warranty work, or attempt to do so, and FCA itself just balks and won't pay for it.
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