2018 Camry revealed
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For about twenty years, I've seen many non-auto enthusiasts spell it out that way. It sounds so bad when spoken, I just started calling it that, along with some of my colleagues and comrades. Same thing happened back in the 90's when GMC was still selling the Safari. That one quickly turned into "Saffery," which even the dealer started saying.
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The $40k+ model has a long list of cheesy, rip-off accessories added. This is very common on new models, in order to extract as much money out of each excited new customer who cannot wait for one model year. Sad.
Thought I'd like the standard SE rims, but they look bad here. May as well take a photo of a flower, all it's petals, and paste them on as rims.
Thought I'd like the standard SE rims, but they look bad here. May as well take a photo of a flower, all it's petals, and paste them on as rims.
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The $40k+ model has a long list of cheesy, rip-off accessories added. This is very common on new models, in order to extract as much money out of each excited new customer who cannot wait for one model year. Sad.
Thought I'd like the standard SE rims, but they look bad here. May as well take a photo of a flower, all it's petals, and paste them on as rims.
Thought I'd like the standard SE rims, but they look bad here. May as well take a photo of a flower, all it's petals, and paste them on as rims.
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What about a top spec Camry hybrid vs an ES300h? The Camry has a smoother, quieter and more fuel efficient drivetrain whereas the ES hybrid could be quieter overall. I'm wondering if the ES is worth the extra money if you don't need the extra rear seat room
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So suffice to say that the new Camry is more ES-like, but we are hopeful the new ES continues to significantly differentiate itself from the Camry and justify the $10K +/- cost differential.
And folks jeed need to decide if they want something that is now close the the existing ES (and price) or continue to pay for "luxury" 😉
And folks jeed need to decide if they want something that is now close the the existing ES (and price) or continue to pay for "luxury" 😉
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$40k is getting a bit sporty, but if it's a great package it could be worth it. I doubt many will be packaged that way. With a quick search on Cars.com, I see you can easily spend $36k on an outgoing Accord, $37k on a Maxima, $35k on a Legacy or Passat, and $37k on a Malibu. I would absolutely pay $3k more for a new Camry than a Malibu, even though I think the Malibu is a nice package.
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$40k is getting a bit sporty, but if it's a great package it could be worth it. I doubt many will be packaged that way. With a quick search on Cars.com, I see you can easily spend $36k on an outgoing Accord, $37k on a Maxima, $35k on a Legacy or Passat, and $37k on a Malibu. I would absolutely pay $3k more for a new Camry than a Malibu, even though I think the Malibu is a nice package.
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In a half year, no Camry will sell for $40k or even $36k. Historically, the Camry-Accord-Altima rivalry is one of the hottest segments in the industry. Incentives and easy bargaining will drop the price once the initial hype is over. These manufacturers have stringent sales goals and numbers to meet, and that will move these cars out at the appropriate price slot- all likely between $20k to $30k.
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It makes me wonder what most car magazine writers are smoking, at least when it comes to reviewing sedans like the Camry and Accord. They harp on and on about driving dynamics and fancy interior tech without looking at reliability or ergonomics. The Camry has slightly better dynamics than before (no big deal) but the 2018 Accord still has lots of road noise. I was a TSX owner before and although I found the handling fun, the hard suspension and tire/wind noise made it a tiring car to drive.