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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 05:03 PM
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I said 5 Series...
Yep...you did. Sorry, I didn't catch that.
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 10:23 PM
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Luxury cars suffer from higher deprecation rates compared to lower priced mainstream cars. Not really sure most people are going to care about depreciation on a Lincoln.
You're right for the most part, but there are those frugal buyers who do care about such things. Usually they'll buy something like an ES350, base model E-class, BMW 5 series with the 4 cylinder, maybe an LS460 in the upper range, you know, the "safe" choices. They could afford a loaded S-class Benz at 130k, but just don't see the sense in spending that much on a car.
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 05:58 AM
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You're right for the most part, but there are those frugal buyers who do care about such things. Usually they'll buy something like an ES350, base model E-class, BMW 5 series with the 4 cylinder, maybe an LS460 in the upper range, you know, the "safe" choices. They could afford a loaded S-class Benz at 130k, but just don't see the sense in spending that much on a car.
Which all depreciate more than a Camry, Accord or something else that is cheaper to buy. If someone is really worried or concerned about depreciation, they should not be buying luxury, does not matter if they are frugal and care about those things. This is why the idea of a Lincoln Continental depreciating is kind a moot point.
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Which all depreciate more than a Camry, Accord or something else that is cheaper to buy. If someone is really worried or concerned about depreciation, they should not be buying luxury, does not matter if they are frugal and care about those things. This is why the idea of a Lincoln Continental depreciating is kind a moot point.
This reasoning is totally out of touch. Just because luxury cars depreciate more than mainstream cars doesn't mean luxury car buyers throw their hands up and say "who cares". Luxury cars depreciate at varying rates, and while the makes and models that hold their value best may not hold their value as well as say a Camry, that doesn't mean that doesn't or shouldn't matter to luxury car buyers. If a Lexus holds value better than a Lincoln, that isn't meaningless because a Lexus doesn't hold value as well as a Toyota.

I promise you, luxury car buyers do care about projected resale value. For one, most luxury cars are leased and residual value has a huge impact on lease cost. Lincolns don't lease very well, and that's a big reason why.
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
If someone is really worried or concerned about depreciation, they should not be buying luxury, does not matter if they are frugal and care about those things. This is why the idea of a Lincoln Continental depreciating is kind a moot point.
I don't place a whole lot of stock in official KBB or NADA used-car prices for depreciation rates, even though local governments often use them in assessing value for personal-property taxes (as they do in the county here in Virginia where I live). Any organization can print any figure they want (or claim to have come up with through research and supply/demand rates) for any previously-owned vehicle, but, when push comes to shove, you are only going to get what someone else is willing to pay....KBB or not.

In my case, I've seen it go both ways. There were times when I got a good KBB figure or better on a trade-in, times when I didn't, times when I got a good asking price on a private sale, and, of course, times when I gave the person a break on the price because they were a relative or friend of mine. I also figured that if I got a break on the price of a new car myself, I'd do the person getting my old car a favor and give him one, too....in the spirit of the Golden Rule. I've found, time and time again, in life, that the less one obsesses himself or herself with making every last dime (or spending every last dime) on a sale, the better it is for them in the long run.
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 06:17 AM
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The only "Golden Rule" I subscribe to is the one that says "he who has the gold, makes the rules"
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Last year, Lincoln did a limited — just 80 — run of stretched Continentals with '60s-style suicide doors to mark the nameplate’s 80th anniversary. (The Continental launched in 1939 as a special project of Edsel Ford’s.) Those cars, officially the 80th Anniversary Coach Door Edition, quickly sold out. That enthusiastic reaction prompted Lincoln to commit to a return engagement. As promised, Lincoln is back with a Coach Door Edition of the 2020 Lincoln Continental.

The essential elements are the same as last time. The sedans are based on the top-spec all-wheel-drive Black Label trim level and powered by the 400-hp 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6. They’re stretched six inches between the axles, and the longer rear doors are rear-hinged. The work again is being done by Cabot Coach Builders in Massachusetts.

The rear-hinged doors retain the Continental’s signature exterior door handles that are integrated into the beltline molding with electronic releases. Inside, a full-length center console divides the rear seats and incorporates a table, wireless device charging, audio and climate controls, and tablet/notebook computer holders. The doors each house a Lincoln-branded umbrella, and the door sills are illuminated.

Three exterior colors are offered: Chroma Crystal Blue, Infiniti Black and Pristine White Metallic, with the latter two available in a monochrome treatment. Inside, buyers have their choice of two themes: Alpine / Chalet or Jet Black / Thoroughbred.

A standard all-wheel-drive Black Label starts at $75,470 (before options), but the 2020 Lincoln Continental Coach Door Edition will start at $115,470 (plus destination fee). This year’s production run will be approximately 150 cars, and order books open today (Friday, Oct. 4) with deliveries scheduled for spring 2021.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 03:22 PM
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$115k for a Ford? No, thanks.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 04:39 PM
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$115k for a Ford? No, thanks.

Classic design, but, I agree, overpriced.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 06:01 PM
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While I bet the Continental is on the hot seat, if they could do another generation but with the lessons learned from the Navigator and Aviator AND switch to RWD (Explorer is related to Mustang RWD architecture now), they could finally have a legitimate competitor in this segment worthy of it's price.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
While I bet the Continental is on the hot seat, if they could do another generation but with the lessons learned from the Navigator and Aviator AND switch to RWD (Explorer is related to Mustang RWD architecture now), they could finally have a legitimate competitor in this segment worthy of it's price.
There will be no next gen Continental sedan.
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Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
There will be no next gen Continental sedan.
I'm aware it's a pipe dream which is why I used the word IF.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 08:56 PM
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Lincoln Continental outsold the LS500 574 to 346. Absolutely unreal.
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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Lincoln Continental outsold the LS500 574 to 346. Absolutely unreal.
Good for Lincoln. The LS is no longer what it once was, sales are showing it. The comments and frustration of Lexus fans confirm it Continental is a more appealing car IMO.

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Old Oct 5, 2019 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob04
Lincoln Continental outsold the LS500 574 to 346. Absolutely unreal.
But I think fleets are a huge component of that. I think I've only seen one or two privately-owned Continentals since they launched. Nearly all of them are operated by car services. The flipside is true of the LS. I've only ever seen one or two with livery plates.
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