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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
It's depreciation relative to peers.

The S550 and 7 series depreciate much faster than the LS460. That's the point here, not the simple fact of depreciation.
The exact point you're trying to make is moot considering that the depreciation is only slightly more than a LS. Ignoring the validity of the exact depreciation numbers, your statement still does nothing to prove that the S550 is a worse car: all that it is is simply your opinion being presented as a fact.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 05:47 PM
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My 2 cents. I have had 2001, 2004, and 2007 LS but in 2010 I ran away from Lexus to other luxury brands because of the horrible dealership service in Houston metropolitan area. I have been lurking here every so often to keep up and am quite interested in seeing what the new LS will have

FYI - Contrary to others, my experience with MB, A, BMW, and Porches has been very positive and found it to be at par to Lexus.

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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 09:04 PM
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As an owner of a brand new LS460 I can tell you...it's a great car, the S550 is a better car. The price difference reflects that. Lexus needs to step up their game and answer that.

As someone who has watched values in this segment over a long period of time, the S Class does depreciate more steeply than the LS. Doesnt mean the LS is a better car. More expensive cars depreciate faster, and the public has more faith in the long term reliability of a Lexus which helps resale.

If you offered me an S550 in exchange for my LS I would take it. Every LS owner being honest would.

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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SW15LS
As an owner of a brand new LS460 I can tell you...it's a great car, the S550 is a better car. The price difference reflects that. Lexus needs to step up their game and answer that.

As someone who has watched values in this segment over a long period of time, the S Class does depreciate more steeply than the LS. Doesnt mean the LS is a better car. More expensive cars depreciate faster, and the public has more faith in the long term reliability of a Lexus which helps resale.

If you offered me an S550 in exchange for my LS I would take it. Every LS owner being honest would.
What is the price difference in the US? Exchange rate accounted for , you are looking at about $60K difference between the LS460 and S550 here in Japan.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
What is the price difference in the US? Exchange rate accounted for , you are looking at about $60K difference between the LS460 and S550 here in Japan.
Depends on what you're looking to get. A LS460L is a closer comparison than the LS460 SWB, dimension-wise. The base difference is about $18,000. When fully built, the difference is about $34,000. But the built S550 has an absurd amount of stuff.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 10:57 PM
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S550 can be built to over 130-140k, Haven't checked. LS lately, maybe 90?

When I was shopping for S550, I was looking at MSRP around 121k, which doesn't even come with any rear seat goodies, not to mention high end sound, night vision, or designo.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
S550 can be built to over 130-140k, Haven't checked. LS lately, maybe 90?

When I was shopping for S550, I was looking at MSRP around 121k, which doesn't even come with any rear seat goodies, not to mention high end sound, night vision, or designo.
I got the S550 to $143,000 with all the options outside the sports package(since that compares more toward the LS460F), the LS460L to $110,000 with all its options.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blacksc400
S550 can be built to over 130-140k, Haven't checked. LS lately, maybe 90?

When I was shopping for S550, I was looking at MSRP around 121k, which doesn't even come with any rear seat goodies, not to mention high end sound, night vision, or designo.
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I got the S550 to $143,000 with all the options outside the sports package(since that compares more toward the LS460F), the LS460L to $110,000 with all its options.
What does the AMG S63 go for in the US then? Has the price risen for the latest S class?
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
What does the AMG S63 go for in the US then? Has the price risen for the latest S class?
$143,250 base MSRP, fully built it up to $207,600.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Superes350
$143,250 base MSRP, fully built it up to $207,600.
Thanks, so Japan is just a bit more expensive in both S550 and S63,

Still I don't like how Lexus keeps doing minor changes every year.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave600hL
Still I don't like how Lexus keeps doing minor changes every year.
every brand makes minor (and major) changes every year.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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This LS has been around for a really really long time though
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Allen K
This LS has been around for a really really long time though
since 2007
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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since 2007
More like September 2006.
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Old Oct 12, 2015 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by CEOEngr
My 2 cents. I have had 2001, 2004, and 2007 LS but in 2010 I ran away from Lexus to other luxury brands because of the horrible dealership service in Houston metropolitan area. I have been lurking here every so often to keep up and am quite interested in seeing what the new LS will have

FYI - Contrary to others, my experience with MB, A, BMW, and Porches has been very positive and found it to be at par to Lexus.

PS: Hello Rominl (Henry) it has been awhile. James
yes james, long time!

i think dealership experience can really vary. i have seen awesome and terrible lexus services myself, and my limited experience with bmw and mb have been very positive so far (though of course, i have heard bad ones too).

lexus has extra 3 years or so on the new LS, they better get it right
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