Notices
Car Chat General discussion about Lexus, other auto manufacturers and automotive news.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Innova
View Poll Results: What should the next LS go after?
Something traditional like the Mercedes S Class.
75.32%
Something more sporty like the Jaguar XJ.
24.68%
Voters: 158. You may not vote on this poll

Next Lexus LS (2018 model)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 22, 2017 | 08:10 PM
  #1666  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 67,908
Likes: 3,839
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Och
Did anyone notice how this new LS is going to be RWD with a possible AWD later? Huge props to Lexus for keeping RWD!
Its RWD and AWD at launch. That's confirmed from Lexus.

Why hey would you think Lexus would ever drop RWD?
Reply
Old Jan 22, 2017 | 08:41 PM
  #1667  
rominl's Avatar
rominl
exclusive matchup
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 81,765
Likes: 347
From: Lovely OC
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
Cafe ratings have gone up by about 11 mpg since 2010. Each manufacturer has a different rating.

It's a common misconception that V8s will disappear. Instead, they will just become less common. Once the Ls460 is out of production, the the only way to get a V8 in a Lexus will be the higher end F or LC500 trims. Hybrids allow a lot of credits among other items. Off the top of my head, I think Lexus likely sells not more than 10-15K V8 cars perhaps year in the US compared to all of those other models.
that's my impression too. i don't think i have heard too much drastic change since 2013.

Originally Posted by peteharvey
From 2018 onwards, V6 TT is the new norm, while V8 TT is now the halo niche - for full size luxury sedans.

What about air suspension.
Does 5LS have air suspension?
Does current 4.5LS have air suspension as standard or an option?
How reliable have the LS' air suspension been? Leaking?
Is it true that E Class' air suspension is softer than conventional coil springs, but very noisy?
E and C Class already have air suspension - should GS and IS get air suspension too, before Lexus arrives too late to the party with air suspension?
i have seen a few 4ls air suspension issues. imho these are stuff that will go in due time. i do think lexus has better / more durable air suspension than mb in general.

personally i am not sure about air suspension in GS and IS. i would rather have those cars stay on the cheaper side. GS is hard to sell as is already
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 05:38 AM
  #1668  
Och's Avatar
Och
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,759
Likes: 131
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by SW15LS
Its RWD and AWD at launch. That's confirmed from Lexus.

Why hey would you think Lexus would ever drop RWD?
Acoording to the interview in the video below (1.45 mark) it's only RWD for now. The industry trend now is to force AWD, at least in NE here its virtually impossible to find RWD 7 or S class.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJvGQGDAhg4
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 05:43 AM
  #1669  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,374
Likes: 3,779
Default

Originally Posted by LexsCTJill
It's a common misconception that V8s will disappear. Instead, they will just become less common.
haven't seen anyone say they will 'disappear'... there's still v12's available, but they're rarer than unicorns now.

but precision single and dual turbos and sophisticated software and transmissions have changed the game. i expect some form of hybrid to become more and more common too, especially on luxury cars, to give that silent idle / take away and of course, some 'instant' torque. lexus of course had a giant lead on this, but never marketed it, priced it too high, and hybrid GSs were also harder to get than big foot sightings.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 05:44 AM
  #1670  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 67,908
Likes: 3,839
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by Och
Acoording to the interview in the video below (1.45 mark) it's only RWD for now. The industry trend now is to force AWD, at least in NE here its virtually impossible to find RWD 7 or S class.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJvGQGDAhg4
I'm the one who originally posted that and pointed it out. The guy he interviewed was wrong. If you look at the Lexus Pressroom site it has the press release with all the stats, it clearly says that it's available in RWD and AWD at launch.

Seeing that 40% of all LSs sold are AWD it only makes sense that it would be available in AWD.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 05:45 AM
  #1671  
bitkahuna's Avatar
bitkahuna
CL Community Team
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 80,374
Likes: 3,779
Default

about the new LS, i haven't read this whole thread, but besides the new looks, what's the wow features? the huge HUD sounds pretty great...

from the pics i see imagery to the right of the large infotainment screen. is that another screen? for?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 05:49 AM
  #1672  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 67,908
Likes: 3,839
From: Maryland
Default

The wowest feature is that it will detect a pedestrian stepping out in front of you and steer to avoid them.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 06:50 AM
  #1673  
yardie876's Avatar
yardie876
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,438
Likes: 88
From: SoFlo
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
about the new LS, i haven't read this whole thread, but besides the new looks, what's the wow features? the huge HUD sounds pretty great...

from the pics i see imagery to the right of the large infotainment screen. is that another screen? for?
It looks like ambient lighting. So pics it's there, some pics bits dark.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 07:02 AM
  #1674  
TangoRed's Avatar
TangoRed
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 24
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by bitkahuna
about the new LS, i haven't read this whole thread, but besides the new looks, what's the wow features? the huge HUD sounds pretty great...

from the pics i see imagery to the right of the large infotainment screen. is that another screen? for?
Originally Posted by yardie876
It looks like ambient lighting. So pics it's there, some pics bits dark.
Yeah not another screen, just a lit up design.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 07:17 AM
  #1675  
Rhambler's Avatar
Rhambler
Lexus Test Driver
 
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,302
Likes: 17
From: CA
Default

Out of all the announced features, as vague as they may have been this early, the one I'm most keen on is the HUD.

I have been critical of Lexus' instrument cluster, even the newer ones, where you have to switch modes to get information. When compared to the more recent Audi, it's rather meek imo simply because there's a lot more information that can be obtained at-a-glance, where you have to stare down and switch modes to get that same info.

Hopefully the HUD addresses this and frankly, if done right, would definitely be better than Audi's virtual cockpit and instrument cluster.

I found one photo that actually shows it. From what I can see it shows navigation, radar cruise control, speed, speed limit and fuel. Hopefully we can configure it to show other information, including radio data, outside temp, etc.

Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 08:08 AM
  #1676  
Och's Avatar
Och
Lexus Champion
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,759
Likes: 131
From: NY
Default

You're not going to see real "wow" features on new cars, at least not until some completely breakthrough technology appears. All of these cars are already available with wide range of wheel bases, transmissions, engines, drivetrains, suspensions, etc. Materials and assembly are top notch across the board.

What we're going to see are more customization options, more choices of interior trim, leather, stitching, ac fragrances and other such little things. And obviously its going to be about who offers the best infotainment with biggest screens, most intuitive interface, faster and sharper graphics, better HUDs, better phone integration - much like we have with smartphones, tablets and computers these days.

There are only two recent really important innovations that I can think of. One of them is magic ride control in the S class, and the other is adaptive high beam assist with LED arrays. I believe these LED arrays are available on Audi, Lexus, MB and BMW but I'm not sure if they are available in the US?
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 08:50 AM
  #1677  
TangoRed's Avatar
TangoRed
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 24
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by Och
You're not going to see real "wow" features on new cars, at least not until some completely breakthrough technology appears. All of these cars are already available with wide range of wheel bases, transmissions, engines, drivetrains, suspensions, etc. Materials and assembly are top notch across the board.
That's what people have said generation after generation.

Originally Posted by Och
What we're going to see are more customization options, more choices of interior trim, leather, stitching, ac fragrances and other such little things. And obviously its going to be about who offers the best infotainment with biggest screens, most intuitive interface, faster and sharper graphics, better HUDs, better phone integration - much like we have with smartphones, tablets and computers these days.

There are only two recent really important innovations that I can think of. One of them is magic ride control in the S class, and the other is adaptive high beam assist with LED arrays. I believe these LED arrays are available on Audi, Lexus, MB and BMW but I'm not sure if they are available in the US?
You can't leave out the area that manufacturers are absolutely pouring money into, which is the march to autonomous driving capability.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 10:24 AM
  #1678  
SW17LS's Avatar
SW17LS
Lexus Fanatic
Active Streak: 60 Days
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 67,908
Likes: 3,839
From: Maryland
Default

Originally Posted by TangoRed
You can't leave out the area that manufacturers are absolutely pouring money into, which is the march to autonomous driving capability.
Oh lord here we go lol
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 10:26 AM
  #1679  
yardie876's Avatar
yardie876
Lexus Champion
 
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 3,438
Likes: 88
From: SoFlo
Default

Originally Posted by TangoRed
That's what people have said generation after generation.You can't leave out the area that manufacturers are absolutely pouring money into, which is the march to autonomous driving capability.
If I remember correctly, they aren't activated (aside from auto high beam assist) here in the states due to outdated headlight laws. Some BMW owners have unlocked the feature on their cars though from what I've read.
Reply
Old Jan 23, 2017 | 10:44 AM
  #1680  
TangoRed's Avatar
TangoRed
Lead Lap
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,585
Likes: 24
From: Washington
Default

Originally Posted by SW15LS
Oh lord here we go lol
Lol couldn't help myself

Originally Posted by yardie876
If I remember correctly, they aren't activated (aside from auto high beam assist) here in the states due to outdated headlight laws. Some BMW owners have unlocked the feature on their cars though from what I've read.
I know you didn't mean to quote me, but that's correct. BMW's have the most hackable (or should I say accessible) software. My friend had his enabled on his X5 and I absolutely loved it.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:48 AM.