The new twin scroll 2.0 turbo
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That's a good point.
However, in the case of the M5, a lot of BMW enthusiasts were not happy with the switch from NA V10 to the new 4.4 liter Twin Turbo V8 (S63 engine). One of the disadvantages was that the redline is now lowered.
PLUS, the exhaust sound is downgraded and there is reduced intensity.
Hence, the only remedy is to purchase the optional BMW M Performance AKRAPOVIC exhaust system.
This is not only limited to the M5/M6.
Look at the new BMW M3/M4................they 'downgrade' from NA V8 to this new inline 6 twin turbo......and people were saying "my god, the exhaust is LIFELESS"
Again, it's not necessarily the manufacturer's fault.
But hell, even Formula One is following this trend. The V12, V10 and V8 engines sounded intense (which is what Formula One is about).
Now with these turbo V6 motors, F1 cars sound like lawnmowers.
Again, not necessarily the fault of the manufacturer or the firm.
You can blame governments..........or those motherf***ers that belong to Greenpeace. OR BOTH!!!
However, in the case of the M5, a lot of BMW enthusiasts were not happy with the switch from NA V10 to the new 4.4 liter Twin Turbo V8 (S63 engine). One of the disadvantages was that the redline is now lowered.
PLUS, the exhaust sound is downgraded and there is reduced intensity.
Hence, the only remedy is to purchase the optional BMW M Performance AKRAPOVIC exhaust system.
This is not only limited to the M5/M6.
Look at the new BMW M3/M4................they 'downgrade' from NA V8 to this new inline 6 twin turbo......and people were saying "my god, the exhaust is LIFELESS"
Again, it's not necessarily the manufacturer's fault.
But hell, even Formula One is following this trend. The V12, V10 and V8 engines sounded intense (which is what Formula One is about).
Now with these turbo V6 motors, F1 cars sound like lawnmowers.
Again, not necessarily the fault of the manufacturer or the firm.
You can blame governments..........or those motherf***ers that belong to Greenpeace. OR BOTH!!!
I will agree with you, those old NA monsters were some of the best sounding engines ever.
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Im sure the 2.0T from lexus will be smooth efficient and reliable, with a few years refinement the i4 will be just as nice as the old v6's. Back in the day if you wanted a smooth engine you had to go with a v8, over the years we refined the v6 to v8 like smoothness (think 3800 GM). Tomorrow's i4 will be just as smooth as the old v6's.
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And then, GR will get same remake as part of their 14 new models. So it should get up to 30% better mpg and quite possibly more hp as well :-)
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more like 3500-4k, Not sure if they will put the 8spd with the IS200t, I would think they would. I still would rather have NA instead of dealing with a turbo
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Doubt all you will, the 3.5 is an old lump. Car manufacturers like all businesses follow trends. BMW with the n55, audi with 3.0T (supercharged). And now the new 3.0TT from mb.
You will see a small displacement v6 with forced induction in the near future.
You will see a small displacement v6 with forced induction in the near future.
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