View Poll Results: What name should Toyota use for the production Toyota FT-1?
Supra gets my vote!
129
84.31%
I don't know, but its time for a new name.
24
15.69%
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Toyota Supra / FT-1
I would say that Toyota made a conscious brand segmentation decision not to put the 3.5tt V6 in the Supra. The last thing you want the auto press telling people is that the company put its $100K flagship sedan's motor in the $50K Supra. The LS's motor is probably going to be in other Lexus vehicles, so putting it in a Toyota may not in the cards right now.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
Just to play devils advocate. The I3 in the BMW i8 is derived from the same family of I3's on current Mini's. What say you?
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
That's a fair assessment.
Just to play devils advocate. The I3 in the BMW i8 is derived from the same family of I3's on current Mini's. What say you?
Just to play devils advocate. The I3 in the BMW i8 is derived from the same family of I3's on current Mini's. What say you?
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Well that's an interesting question. The i8 is a tech showcase and seems aimed at the techy Silicon Valley crowd more than anyone else, so it's sort of a "fun and frolic-y" greeny mobile. Minis sort of have that same sort fun image and are marketed as such (same reason Fiat has the 500), so it's possible that's why they stuck the hamster motor from the Mini family into the i8. I suppose what they're saying is that the electrics do the bulk of the peforming until they run out of juice and then you're down to the moped motor. But the i8 looks cool enough .
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I would say that Toyota made a conscious brand segmentation decision not to put the 3.5tt V6 in the Supra. The last thing you want the auto press telling people is that the company put its $100K flagship sedan's motor in the $50K Supra. The LS's motor is probably going to be in other Lexus vehicles, so putting it in a Toyota may not in the cards right now.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
Hah neither could I.
True, but too old I presume. 2JZ-GTE while reliable to fault (2JZ cast iron block you could put a bullet in and it would still function), was very thirsty. Today's engines are mostly aluminum and Toyota would want to put direct injection, port injection, VVT-i, and D-4S to name a few technologies into a new one. I haven't heard that many problems with the latest BMW I6's. Ten years ago they had a lot of issues with HPFP, though I think that's mostly revised now. I guess if Miata and 124 Spider can do it, Z4 and Supra can too.
I'm curious how the new 3.5L TT in the LS will hold up over time, and if Toyota would ever consider using it in the future.
True, but too old I presume. 2JZ-GTE while reliable to fault (2JZ cast iron block you could put a bullet in and it would still function), was very thirsty. Today's engines are mostly aluminum and Toyota would want to put direct injection, port injection, VVT-i, and D-4S to name a few technologies into a new one. I haven't heard that many problems with the latest BMW I6's. Ten years ago they had a lot of issues with HPFP, though I think that's mostly revised now. I guess if Miata and 124 Spider can do it, Z4 and Supra can too.
I'm curious how the new 3.5L TT in the LS will hold up over time, and if Toyota would ever consider using it in the future.
I'm also curious to know how the 3.5L TT holds us. I'm also curious where they go with it. They could make revisions of it with a 3L block or 4.0L block, and different tunes for more power of efficiency.
ya, too old and way too much work. the mechanical engineering design files may have been in a version that dates back to Windows 95 and Windows 3.1. The ECU's were most likely coded in assembly. Plus, there's the development in the things that you mentioned to get today's technology, the power and fuel efficiency. I hate to admit, but IMO, sourcing the BMW I6 was the best choice from an engineering and business perspective. The E46 M3 engine from the early 2000's was a beast and it was NA.
I'm also curious to know how the 3.5L TT holds us. I'm also curious where they go with it. They could make revisions of it with a 3L block or 4.0L block, and different tunes for more power of efficiency.
I'm also curious to know how the 3.5L TT holds us. I'm also curious where they go with it. They could make revisions of it with a 3L block or 4.0L block, and different tunes for more power of efficiency.
I would say that Toyota made a conscious brand segmentation decision not to put the 3.5tt V6 in the Supra. The last thing you want the auto press telling people is that the company put its $100K flagship sedan's motor in the $50K Supra. The LS's motor is probably going to be in other Lexus vehicles, so putting it in a Toyota may not in the cards right now.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
Now telling people that you have a BMW inline six drivetrain in your Supra is going to get some attention.
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Well it looks like the test mule is using a BMW shifter and steering wheel.
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/16/...ype-spy-shots/
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/02/16/...ype-spy-shots/
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