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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but if you remember, Mike, I said a long time ago (when I reviewed both the Crosstour and TSX Sportwagon), that both of them, IMO, had major style and marketing problems. The Crosstour had the right mechanicals (V6 option, AWD, raised-suspension, etc....), but they packaged it with that silly droop-rear roofline that screwed up the rear visibility and cargo-space. In contrast, they gave the TSX Sportwagon a proper, good-looking and functional wagon body, but then screwed up royally on its mechanicals.....no AWD, V6, or raised-suspension. Go figure.....


And then they wonder why neither one is selling.............. ........although, to be fair, one of my neighbors did buy a Black-on Black Crosstour.
We just had a trade in of a loaded Blk/blk Crosstour with 1500 miles. Guy says to me, I dunno why I didn't buy the RX350 in the first place. hah
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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Yea I saw that, but what will the actual rating be for the Accord? Link says Pilot will get 310hp or so... who knows if the Accord will get a detuned version.
I don't see the Pilot getting 310hp or anywhere near that. The current one has 250hp which is competitive in its class. Why would they jump 60hp in the next model especially when nobody else in its class makes anywhere near 310hp. I think the pilot will make around 260-270hp with an improved powerband.

There's no way the new Accord is getting 310hp either, there is no need for that much hp in a family sedan even if it is on the sporty side. 271hp in the current one is more then enough for a family sedan,.

I think the new v6 Accord will make around 275hp with a more improved powerband. It may make 280-285hp for the 6 speed coupe.

I think the styling is nice and will probably look better in person, interior looks best in class.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
We just had a trade in of a loaded Blk/blk Crosstour with 1500 miles. Guy says to me, I dunno why I didn't buy the RX350 in the first place. hah
I do not believe the Crosstour is an RX350 competitor. Aren't they like 10K apart at least?
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UDel
I don't see the Pilot getting 310hp or anywhere near that. The current one has 250hp which is competitive in its class. Why would they jump 60hp in the next model especially when nobody else in its class makes anywhere near 310hp. I think the pilot will make around 260-270hp with an improved powerband.

There's no way the new Accord is getting 310hp either, there is no need for that much hp in a family sedan even if it is on the sporty side. 271hp in the current one is more then enough for a family sedan,.

I think the new v6 Accord will make around 275hp with a more improved powerband. It may make 280-285hp for the 6 speed coupe.

I think the styling is nice and will probably look better in person, interior looks best in class.
+1 on this. If they are to give the accord 300+ hp .. how much more do they have to give the TL .. 350+?

275-280 sound about right for the top Accord.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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New Accord looks very nice actually!!! Probably the nicest looking car in the class now......the new Camry and Altima are hideous.





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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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it's very conservative, but quite nice. at least it doesn't look cheap.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:32 PM
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Interesting. In the last exterior pic, it's wearing Sonata rims. Maybe for a test?
A couple more thoughts... Dash isn't all that attractive with the "auxiliary" nav screen standing out like a sore thumb. Why can't manufacturers integrate this feature instead of making it stand out like the dash was designed around it? Ruins the whole flow and looks like a wart. Am I the only one who is annoyed by this in Honda, BMW, and others?
Exterior is very clean and modern. I agree, this is the best looking shape in the segment.
Question: Without reading through all the pages (again), does anyone know if the gear shift lever has manumatic shifting? That would be a deal-breaker for me if it did not.
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Old Aug 21, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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they definitely have to worry about cannibalizing their upper tier models like the tsx and TL.

the mid tier models keep getting better and better.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
New Accord looks very nice actually!!! Probably the nicest looking car in the class now......the new Camry and Altima are hideous.





Wow very nice, I remember back in the day when Hondas had a waiting list to get them
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by RNM GS3
New Accord looks very nice actually!!! Probably the nicest looking car in the class now......the new Camry and Altima are hideous.






Must nicer in the higher trim.LEDS look nice.As does the interior.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:10 AM
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Is that a Hyundai Sonata on the tow truck? Sonata, meet big brother Genesis..errr Accord!
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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Looks very nice, but I will never know whats up with Honda's obsession with H U G E tail lights!
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
Is that a Hyundai Sonata on the tow truck? Sonata, meet big brother Genesis..errr Accord!


I feel a lot of cars look like others in one way or another.
The Camry seems to be on it's own.Nobody will copy that ugly design.
Wait,the Camry did copy the Outback's tail lights.
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:04 AM
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Instrument cluster looks exactly like the one in my 12' CRV, so does the steering wheel.

I like the new Accord! Much better than the Camry!
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Old Aug 22, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
We just had a trade in of a loaded Blk/blk Crosstour with 1500 miles. Guy says to me, I dunno why I didn't buy the RX350 in the first place. hah
Probably because the typical RX350, with options, costs significantly more.
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