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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gsrthomas
Who cares how much HP is in the Accord, its FWD anyway. So less HP is actually better in a FWD setup.

I'll probably be in the market for a econbox 4 cylinder accord in the future.
magazine racers? I dont see whats the point of arguing between 300hp or 310hp for FWD car.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gsrthomas
Who cares how much HP is in the Accord, its FWD anyway. So less HP is actually better in a FWD setup.

I'll probably be in the market for a econbox 4 cylinder accord in the future.
Agreed, I bet most buyers of these cars care more about reliability, MPG, interior and trunk space, and conservative styling. Having more HP would just be a nice feature to have.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 05:33 PM
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vtec.net has RL pictures up now. front is very TSXish (Euro Accord), but that rear still screams Genesis. Interior isn't bad, albeit a bit too Teutonic for my tastes...



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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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thanks for link. VERY nice interior. looks like it blows away the uh, competitors.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
thanks for link. VERY nice interior. looks like it blows away the uh, competitors.
With the FAIL that was the Civic's interior, Honda learned its lessons.

Now let's see the test drives and reviews. Specs should be released in a few weeks.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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It actually looks pretty good in real life shot( spied).
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 11:33 PM
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Well this USDM Accord will be used in Europe and Japan since the Euro Accord/Acura TSX will be discontinued. So OUR Accord has to step it up since it will be exported to picky Europe. Thus why it gains some luxurious and features it seems Acura doesn't even have yet. Its a big win for USA customers but sadly hurts Acura. This vehicle makes the ILX in particular look even more ridiculous. It is another mistake to debut some of these features first on the Accord instead of Acura. Acura was here bragging on their LED lights for the RLX and a freaking Accord has them as an option lol.

So with the USDM Accord going upmarket and Acura going downmarket/notelevating, their own Honda car compunds their glaring issues in regards to perception and image. In contrast a Camry, Passat are far away from Lexus/Toyota and rarely if ever offer features their luxury brands don't offer.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SteVTEC
Where are you getting that the engine is "all new"? It just said new technologies being used. You can add DI to an existing engine via either modifying the head design, or simply adding it in if it was already feature protected on the previous head. "All new" to me means new block design with possibly different bore spacings, etc. The fact that it's still SOHC tells me it's still a J-series V6 which have been around since 1997/1998. Why do an "all new" V6 engine and still keep it SOHC?
At this point it's pure speculation as to whether the Earth Dreams 3.5L V6 will be SOHC or DOHC. However, here is an article that clearly states that the entire Earth Dreams range is going to be DOHC. IMO, DOHC is a significant enough change to be called "all new". Again, just speculation at this point.
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-...photo-5054859/
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by IS350jet
At this point it's pure speculation as to whether the Earth Dreams 3.5L V6 will be SOHC or DOHC. However, here is an article that clearly states that the entire Earth Dreams range is going to be DOHC. IMO, DOHC is a significant enough change to be called "all new". Again, just speculation at this point.
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-...photo-5054859/
There's nothing to speculate about. It says right from Honda themselves that the 3.5L V6 is SOHC.

http://world.honda.com/news/2011/411...ogy/index.html

[ 3.5L class engine ]
Employs new valve train mechanisms and direct injection technology in the SOHC, VTEC, VMC systems to improve by over 10%*3 of fuel efficiency and 5%*3 of output, relative to the present standalone engine model.
Would be easy to glance over that.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Well this USDM Accord will be used in Europe and Japan since the Euro Accord/Acura TSX will be discontinued. So OUR Accord has to step it up since it will be exported to picky Europe. Thus why it gains some luxurious and features it seems Acura doesn't even have yet. Its a big win for USA customers but sadly hurts Acura. This vehicle makes the ILX in particular look even more ridiculous. It is another mistake to debut some of these features first on the Accord instead of Acura. Acura was here bragging on their LED lights for the RLX and a freaking Accord has them as an option lol.

So with the USDM Accord going upmarket and Acura going downmarket/notelevating, their own Honda car compunds their glaring issues in regards to perception and image. In contrast a Camry, Passat are far away from Lexus/Toyota and rarely if ever offer features their luxury brands don't offer.
This is music to my ears.

Couldn't care less about Acura, and for years Honda has been watering and dumbing down the Accord trying not to make it too nice in order to prop up mainly Acura TL sales. Happy to see that it looks like they're finally going to make a "nice" Honda Accord.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jwong77
Agreed, I bet most buyers of these cars care more about reliability, MPG, interior and trunk space, and conservative styling. Having more HP would just be a nice feature to have.
i'd think having more HP will increase insurance premium.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
It is another mistake to debut some of these features first on the Accord instead of Acura.
not sure it is. didn't toyota debut hybrids before lexus? certainly the prius is no luxury car, but it was certainly a new thing.

So with the USDM Accord going upmarket and Acura going downmarket/notelevating, their own Honda car compunds their glaring issues in regards to perception and image. In contrast a Camry, Passat are far away from Lexus/Toyota and rarely if ever offer features their luxury brands don't offer.
good points. acura needs some new 'wow'.

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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 02:51 PM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/photo-ga...hotos-and-info

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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Looked much better in the pics.
4 cyl LX?
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
Looked much better in the pics.
4 cyl LX?
Don't they all when shown in real life situations? Professional pics with just the right lighting, angles and shadows etc. make it hard to tell what a car really looks like.
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