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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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I had the touch screen on my 2RX and I prefer Remote Touch on my 3RX. However, I look forward to the TouchPad remote touch starting in the RC as I think it will make the control easier.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 08:38 PM
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so 2015 RX says it will have an updated remote touch controller, but it does not mention the touch capabilities...wonder what they have in store
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 05:00 AM
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I traded my 2013 RX for a 2014 GX because it was so difficult to input an address, tune the radio, or make a phone call with the remote touch.
I'm hoping voice recognition improves enough to replace the remote touch cause I really miss my RX.
is the 2014 GX navigation system touchscreen? i wonder why they decided to do that? legacy model?

http://www.lexus.com/models/GX/featu...ns/?navTo=i0s0
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Gekko
is the 2014 GX navigation system touchscreen? i wonder why they decided to do that? legacy model?

http://www.lexus.com/models/GX/featu...ns/?navTo=i0s0
Yes it's touchscreen. Only the GX, LX, and carry over '14 IS C and IS F all retain touchscreen
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Gekko
is the 2014 GX navigation system touchscreen? i wonder why they decided to do that? legacy model?

http://www.lexus.com/models/GX/featu...ns/?navTo=i0s0
Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Yes it's touchscreen. Only the GX, LX, and carry over '14 IS C and IS F all retain touchscreen
yup, until they do a major facelift there is no way they can just throw in remote touch like that. i think gx and lx basically will have to wait for next generation
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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yup, until they do a major facelift there is no way they can just throw in remote touch like that. i think gx and lx basically will have to wait for next generation
Yeah it should be interesting to see since the GX and LX are so closely related to 4Runner/Prado and LC. Makes me think if the next gens go unibody (spin the Lexus's off as their own) then they are more likely to get RT but could also stay touchscreen if they are too closely related to the Toyotas. That's not to say they couldn't rearrange the cup holders or 4x4/suspension toggles to place a RT mount though. But who knows. When RT debuted on some 2010 model up until 2012 (CT exception), it had the two enter buttons on the sides. For 2013-2014 it dropped the Enters for the push down mouse. Now it seems 2015 debuts the new RT Crosshair, so roughly every 2 years a big change comes in the form of a new gen of RT. We'll see if they stick with this 3rd gen or move on in 2017
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i didn't like the first gen RT much, that enter button on the side was pretty annoying. and also the way the RT moves / tilt, the new design is way more ergonomic imho

the ES is somewhat camry / avalon as well but they are able to put in the RT, i am sure they can figure out a way with GX and LX. but you are so right, maybe it's time to depart further way from the 4runner and LC
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Yes it's touchscreen. Only the GX, LX, and carry over '14 IS C and IS F all retain touchscreen
so these models still have the last generation navigation system? (vs. a newer "touch" variant of the most current generation navigation system?)
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Gekko
so these models still have the last generation navigation system? (vs. a newer "touch" variant of the most current generation navigation system?)
Hoovey could probably confirm, but my understanding is that the newest GX uses a touchscreen version of the new navigation system found in the 3IS. I am not sure about the others.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Yeah it should be interesting to see since the GX and LX are so closely related to 4Runner/Prado and LC. Makes me think if the next gens go unibody (spin the Lexus's off as their own) then they are more likely to get RT but could also stay touchscreen if they are too closely related to the Toyotas. That's not to say they couldn't rearrange the cup holders or 4x4/suspension toggles to place a RT mount though. But who knows. When RT debuted on some 2010 model up until 2012 (CT exception), it had the two enter buttons on the sides. For 2013-2014 it dropped the Enters for the push down mouse. Now it seems 2015 debuts the new RT Crosshair, so roughly every 2 years a big change comes in the form of a new gen of RT. We'll see if they stick with this 3rd gen or move on in 2017
i dont think navigation has anything to do with sharing platforms.

LX will certainly not go unibody, because its main market is not west... but GX might become something else completely.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gekko
so these models still have the last generation navigation system? (vs. a newer "touch" variant of the most current generation navigation system?)
Originally Posted by JDR76
Hoovey could probably confirm, but my understanding is that the newest GX uses a touchscreen version of the new navigation system found in the 3IS. I am not sure about the others.
Ok, so GX, LX, IS C, IS F are all touch screen. All other models are Remote Touch for interface.

Now here's where it gets funny. Only the IS, CT and GX have the lastest Navigation system (Subscribtion free traffic/weather, 3D maps, one-shot address entry, cache radio etc..). Everyting else still has the system introduced on '13 models.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by spwolf
i dont think navigation has anything to do with sharing platforms.

LX will certainly not go unibody, because its main market is not west... but GX might become something else completely.
Sorry I was referring more referring to the dash layout.

Well it could if they spin the LX off as it's own model. Truthfully I'd prefer it, as unibody would allow for a more comfortable ride, efficiency, handling etc.. The Range Rover is a prime example of uber luxury and capability. Just use LC's fantastic 4x4 hardware and you're golden. And yeah, GX's future depends on the 2016 RX and how big it gets and if it does or doesn't seat seven it seems.
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Old Feb 28, 2014 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Ok, so GX, LX, IS C, IS F are all touch screen. All other models are Remote Touch for interface.

Now here's where it gets funny. Only the IS, CT and GX have the lastest Navigation system (Subscribtion free traffic/weather, 3D maps, one-shot address entry, cache radio etc..). Everyting else still has the system introduced on '13 models.
yup i was quite surprised at how the gx and ct got the new system but not the other models. hard to figure out
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoovey2411
Ok, so GX, LX, IS C, IS F are all touch screen. All other models are Remote Touch for interface.

Now here's where it gets funny. Only the IS, CT and GX have the lastest Navigation system (Subscribtion free traffic/weather, 3D maps, one-shot address entry, cache radio etc..). Everyting else still has the system introduced on '13 models.
so there is a 2014+ Generation Navigation System with a Touchscreen. interesting.

i think the best solution is to include the Touchscreen along with the Remote Touch. this way the customer can choose what works best for them.
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Old Mar 1, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gekko
so there is a 2014+ Generation Navigation System with a Touchscreen. interesting.

i think the best solution is to include the Touchscreen along with the Remote Touch. this way the customer can choose what works best for them.
I suspect it's about screen location. Remote Touch is likely more expensive than a touchscreen. Since the GX nav screen is within reach, they left it a touchscreen. Without a full dash redesign, RT wouldn't really buy them anything. However, on the RX, IS, GS, and LS, etc., the RT has allowed them to place the screen further away, really opening up the options on dash design, and allowing the screen to be placed closer to the forward line of vision.
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