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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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The demographics of the Avalon buyer is much like the ES350 (avg age around 60 & conservative). Both brands have tried to lower this average without much success to date. They both have a loyal following though.
Are you serious - the average age of the ES350 is 60 years old? I'd say average age is 50 years old. Average as for the LS is 60+ years old.
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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I'm talking about the 2011 model.

Here's a 360 view of it, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6oOvXl9C0
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 04:32 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GSteg
GS and Avalon do not share the same platform.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
how could that be possible? the Avalon is FWD and the GS is RWD.
That's why it was in the form of a question... Similar sized vehicles... it was just a thought...
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rashoodz
I'm talking about the 2011 model.

Here's a 360 view of it, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gp6oOvXl9C0
Those six inch wheels seem a little small...
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by lexuslivin
Are you serious - the average age of the ES350 is 60 years old? I'd say average age is 50 years old. Average as for the LS is 60+ years old.
"This ES 350 also isn't particularly youth-oriented. The average age of buyers is 56, a year more than for the Cadillac CTS. By contrast, the average buyer's age is 42 for the BMW 328i, 43 for Nissan's Infiniti G35, and 45 for Honda's (HMC) Acura TL."

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...103_543578.htm

"The main thing one needs to know about the Lexus ES350 is that it isn't intended to be an enthusiast car. The average age of Lexus buyers is in their mid- to late-50s,"


In 2007...

“The ES 350’s average age is 61, and their number-one occupation is retired,” says Jim Farley who recently dropped his position at Lexus to go work for Ford..."

http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-...-buyers-21752/
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Wow an A7 and an XJ, glad to see Toyota is still full of thmselves
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by <VENOM>
Wow an A7 and an XJ, glad to see Toyota is still full of thmselves
For once, they're copying Hyundai's methods...
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 07:02 PM
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I love the tail lights at night. They look amazing.
+1 ... tail lights look awesome
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandhopper
Aren't the Avalon and the GS on the same platform? I think the GS looks much better but I guess we will see how they compair in 2013...
Originally Posted by GSteg
GS and Avalon do not share the same platform.
Originally Posted by bitkahuna
how could that be possible? the Avalon is FWD and the GS is RWD.
The Avalon and the GS do not share a platform. The Avalon is transverse-engine FWD and the GS is longitudinal-engine RWD. Even the 2GR 3.5-litre V6 used in the Avalon and the GS are different; it was modified slightly to fit transversely, for FWD use.

The GS shares a platform with the Toyota Mark X and the Lexus IS. The GS and the Mark X are smaller than the Avalon, and are about the size of the Camry.

The Avalon shares a platform with the Camry (and the ES, Highlander, RX, etc. ...). It seems half of Toyota's lineup shares a platform with the Camry.
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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Did that guy get jacked lol?
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Joeb427
"This ES 350 also isn't particularly youth-oriented. The average age of buyers is 56, a year more than for the Cadillac CTS. By contrast, the average buyer's age is 42 for the BMW 328i, 43 for Nissan's Infiniti G35, and 45 for Honda's (HMC) Acura TL."

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/co...103_543578.htm

"The main thing one needs to know about the Lexus ES350 is that it isn't intended to be an enthusiast car. The average age of Lexus buyers is in their mid- to late-50s,"


In 2007...

“The ES 350’s average age is 61, and their number-one occupation is retired,” says Jim Farley who recently dropped his position at Lexus to go work for Ford..."

http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-...-buyers-21752/
Wow, didn't know the ES350 average age was so high. I wonder what the average age for the LS is?
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lexuslivin
Wow, didn't know the ES350 average age was so high. I wonder what the average age for the LS is?
It was the 60's.It may have drop a couple of years since then but still at least 60..

"For example, you might think that driving a Lexus makes you alluring, but if you opt for the $60,000 Lexus LS sedan, you might seem attractive only to older, single parents; LS drivers are in their 60s, family-oriented and value politeness."

http://www.autospies.com/news/Can-yo...bout-you-12506
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sulu
Even the 2GR 3.5-litre V6 used in the Avalon and the GS are different; it was modified slightly to fit transversely, for FWD use.
Isn't the disparity even bigger than that? I thought the Avalon still had the 2GR-FE, while the GS definitely has the completely different, more powerful 2GR-FSE.
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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Why is the GS and Avalon even being compared? TOTALLY different cars.
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