2013 Toyota Avalon revealed (pics pg.14)
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Joined: Aug 2006
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From: Illinois
Both the Avalon and ES are selling well. In Feb the Avalon outsold the ES 5703/4817. It will be interesting to see if this continues. YTD the Avalon leads in sales 10543/10003.
If I was in the market I'd lean towards the Avalon.
If I was in the market I'd lean towards the Avalon.
Lead Lap
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: ontario
Nice video, the comment about the slidding fan control not working with gloves is probably just hear say. I have had really thick winter gloves on, and the fan control worked everytime I touched it.
Being too lazy to to read the manual, I've learned from the video how to switch the info panel display
Being too lazy to to read the manual, I've learned from the video how to switch the info panel display
Lead Lap
Joined: Apr 2010
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From: ontario
This car is growing on me everyday. I have over 1500 miles on it now, so I believe the break-in is completed.
I have never driven the old model Avalon, because I didn't like the styling. Therefore I can only compare my car to the GS/IS/RX I had previously. This is the best one for DD either city or highway cruising. The V6 works extremely well with the transmission. I believe it behaves better than the GS430 off the line. The gear shifts are very smooth, and seem to get into the right gear very quickly as dictated by the gas pedal. It handles rough road surfaces better than all of them. The simpler touch controls for everything including the Nav just work so well that I do not miss the mouse and buttons.
With that said, I believe the Lexus vehicles appear to have better paint finish. I am also sure that body materials and assemblies are put together on a different level of care and details.
I am hoping that this car has the typical Toyota reliability, because I can see myself keeping it way beyond the end of my business write off cycle.
I have never driven the old model Avalon, because I didn't like the styling. Therefore I can only compare my car to the GS/IS/RX I had previously. This is the best one for DD either city or highway cruising. The V6 works extremely well with the transmission. I believe it behaves better than the GS430 off the line. The gear shifts are very smooth, and seem to get into the right gear very quickly as dictated by the gas pedal. It handles rough road surfaces better than all of them. The simpler touch controls for everything including the Nav just work so well that I do not miss the mouse and buttons.
With that said, I believe the Lexus vehicles appear to have better paint finish. I am also sure that body materials and assemblies are put together on a different level of care and details.
I am hoping that this car has the typical Toyota reliability, because I can see myself keeping it way beyond the end of my business write off cycle.
Congratulations. Enjoy it. But take it easy on the engine/transmission and brakes for at least the first 500-1000 miles. Today's new-car break-in periods, because of more precise and advanced manufacturing methods, are not as critical as in the past, but it's still a good idea not to stress the components for at least several hundred miles.
BTW, I've test-driven two new Avalons (gas and hybrid) and a new non-hybrid Lexus ES, and, given the choice, I'd take either Avalon over the ES, though I wasn't totally happy with the new suspensions/tires on either car.
I'm not claiming that your particular salesperson was dishonest, but don't necessarily believe everythng salespeople tell you. Though they are generally more honest now than in the past (and there are indeed some excellent ones), as a group, they didn't get the notorious reputation they have for nothing.
But take it easy on the engine/transmission and brakes for at least the first 500-1000 miles. Today's new-car break-in periods, because of more precise and advanced manufacturing methods, are not as critical as in the past, but it's still a good idea not to stress the components for at least several hundred miles. BTW, I've test-driven two new Avalons (gas and hybrid) and a new non-hybrid Lexus ES, and, given the choice, I'd take either Avalon over the ES, though I wasn't totally happy with the new suspensions/tires on either car.
I'm not claiming that your particular salesperson was dishonest, but don't necessarily believe everythng salespeople tell you. Though they are generally more honest now than in the past (and there are indeed some excellent ones), as a group, they didn't get the notorious reputation they have for nothing.
Lexus Test Driver
Joined: Mar 2013
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From: IL
I drove a fully loaded Avalon, along with several other vehicles, before finally deciding on my ES. While it rode about the same as the ES, it just didn't feel right for me. I didn't like the cap touch buttons, or the nav. The radio sounded like garbage compared to the ML in the ES. Just too many little things that didn't make up for the money I'd have saved. Oh, and it also made me feel about 15 years older.
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