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Old 09-20-10, 10:02 AM
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Default Should Lexus switch audio providers?

Since it looks like Benz and BMW are moving to B&O systems on some models, do you think it might be time for Lexus to switch to a new audio partner?

If so, who would you go with if you were in charge?

I wouldn't mind seeing Definitive Technology or maybe a return to Pioneer.
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Old 09-20-10, 10:20 AM
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i like denon or mcintosh.
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Old 09-20-10, 10:34 AM
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I have been happy with ML and still see them as a leader in the segment.

No need to change, IMO.
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IMHO, the difference in quality comes down to how much design and tuning is put into integrating a premium system into a car. Car audio in general is not that easy to tune (odd interior shape, reflective surfaces). ML has always done great work in the LS, ES and Ok for the IS, but I've been taken back by the poor integration in the older gen RX. The same can be said for B&O (Audi, etc), B&W (Jag), Dynaudio (Volvo). I've listened to the B&O in the A6 (excellent), and the Q5 (not a big upgrade from the stock unit). With that said, I agree that there's no need to move away from ML unless their quality starts to drop.

PS - What I really want to hear is the Naim upgrade in the Bentley for something like $7000. ...actually, I guess I'd have to first sit in a Bentley. :-)

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i agree with rinthiran. a lot of these companies, they are good, no doubt. but it's more about the tuning. in that sense ML has done pretty darn good job on lexus imho, especially their systems on the ls and lx. they should keep up though, in recent years some of their vehicles have been a bit shaking with the ML systems. competition is fierce
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Acura does a great job with their ELS system...
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Originally Posted by onihc
i like denon or mcintosh.
Only McIntosh system I ever saw was in the Ford GT, if I am not mistaken.

Anyways. I like the Mark Levinson sound system

B&O becoming the next Bose it seems.

Some Porsche models have the option for the Burmester sound system.

Lexicon found in Rolls Royce and Hyaundai

True Lexicon and Mark Levinson are owned by the same company.
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B & O has always been about "style and form" over "function and sound".

The gimmiky pop-up tweeters. Even going back to their CD player with the glass doors that opened with a wave of your hand. It's neat and it makes the ladies moist, but it doesn't make it SOUND any better.



I like the ML stuff that Lexus does...they just need to spend a little more money on some of the components. I don't think the fault is with Levinson as much as it's with Lexus. They seem to stop when they get to "that's good enough" or "that'll do". They need to keep going until they hit "damn!" and "wow!"

I don't want a stereo where people tell me "Man, that sounds really nice for a factory system.". I want a stereo system where people say "Holy Cow!"

And I don't mind paying for it.

Tier it. Give us options...

Tier 1) Standard Lexus audio system
Tier 2) Mark Levinson audio system
Tier 3) Mark Levinson Elite audio system
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Originally Posted by Habious
Tier 3) Mark Levinson Elite audio system
Now that be something. $10k just for the audio system

If Lexus was ever thinking of changing components. They should ask Meridian Audio Ltd.
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when did MB start using B&O? They have always used HK.

I am happy with ML as well, I dont see a need to change just because other companies are contracting with B&O
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I'm happy with ML.

your username gives me so much memories.
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Originally Posted by Habious
B & O has always been about "style and form" over "function and sound".

The gimmiky pop-up tweeters. Even going back to their CD player with the glass doors that opened with a wave of your hand. It's neat and it makes the ladies moist, but it doesn't make it SOUND any better.



I like the ML stuff that Lexus does...they just need to spend a little more money on some of the components. I don't think the fault is with Levinson as much as it's with Lexus. They seem to stop when they get to "that's good enough" or "that'll do". They need to keep going until they hit "damn!" and "wow!"

I don't want a stereo where people tell me "Man, that sounds really nice for a factory system.". I want a stereo system where people say "Holy Cow!"

And I don't mind paying for it.

Tier it. Give us options...

Tier 1) Standard Lexus audio system
Tier 2) Mark Levinson audio system
Tier 3) Mark Levinson Elite audio system
Lexus already does that, depending on the price of the car .

I think ML is superb and has good name to it... More problematic is Toyota side of things, here in Europe, where we dont get JBL branded stuff....
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It’s not a matter of the company, it comes down to what Lexus wants to pay the contract manufacturer to build the system with their name on it. Any of the top names mentioned could put some serious audiophile equipment in any car, but mass production vehicles have a way of dumbing down even some of the best.
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Alpine, all the way.
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